Building AoW And Hall at 160 wood...

[AzNsUpA-Boi]

yea but 5 archers could kill off the 2 hunts and hunts 2gether only have 1100 health

 

[VBadGirl]

dude do u fuking read? 2 hunts equal with 5 archers but respecting the food ration for 6 food u get only 3.

and if 600+600 in ur world does only 1100... tell us where u live.

hunts got 550 Hp on roc...in ft they got 600. as i said..shut up.

unless u know what u talking about ..zipp it.

 

[Ntrik_]

Originally posted by VBadGirl
never. u cant micro archers as good as hunts and the reson is their movement speed. plus i didnt even mentioned glaive bounce.

U maybe wanna try it 1v1 with me and prove it to u that hunts beat archers at tier 1 anyday and ALWAYS!.

If we talk in HP ratio:
2 hunts got 1200 HP which equals 5 archers (1200/240=5)

if u keep the food ratio:
2 hunts =6 food= 3 archers

now shut up newbs ><! before i get really pissed off .

Dont u ever call me newb again! :angry

Anyways, think about this vbad... huntress comes after hunters hall, and it cost 100 wood.. bit lot for NE in the beginning, and archers dont require hunter's hall, as 1st huntress is created, there can be dozens of archers (2 AoW) mebbe about 4~7? so about 960 ~ 1680 life. And what kind of idiot would put archers all together VS huntress? i could try to get them as seperate as possible, tho this isnt easy as it can be said, it is ez when upged to Tier 2. (range upg.) Also, remember that mass archers can turn to hippo riders. Also, massing hunts when other dude is massing hunts, is jus like gambling, he may have more hunts, and he may have more micro. And once u screw up in microing, u lose.

 

[M1nt]

VBad: Use some grammar. Get over yourself. I'll change my sig. Nobody agrees with you. Your assuming the mass hunts beat mass archers. They do, but rarely do you see mass archers unless its against fast tech orcs who skip barracks to harass till tier 2. Stop being such an idiot. Just drop your "hunts rule" crap and adapt. hunts haven't owned since beta RoC. Except now they can beat tier 1 melee, but before the patch they sucked again.


I realize you are a mod, but I am not scared. I don't understand how you would justify banning me. That was mroe directed at NLegend.

 

[Ntrik_]

what about me? >.<;

Anyways, hunts pwned in RoC man, i always won by massing hunts and massing dyrads with some DotC and DoTT.

 

[M1nt]

You said she was a mod, I supposed trying to get me to back down from my argument. That's why I said it was directed at you. xD

 

[Ntrik_]

oh that.. lol, i was jus trying to get you not to go over the 'border'... or u might've gotten banned =/ if u get what im saying =/

 

[VBadGirl]

i got an idea... how about a 1v1 with me. u guys mass archers and i am massing hunts.

Ppl like u in my team are pissing me off. and m1nt how about u cut the shit talk and tell us ur account name. u sound like u are lvl 31 at least. (since u also moked me about my lvl and my 46%)

and its not about addapting it's about facs. as i said i played enough to pwn ur arse...

And I havent said..keep massing hunts the whole game..i am not like that...and if u indeed watched those replays u would have seen.

I would only ban you m1nt if u dont obey the rules..nothing else.

another thing legend...read the B.O that is put in the sticky....u'll realize that making a HH and an aow at 160 wood it doesnt take as long as u think it does. with 10 wisps working for u it's a piece of cake.

 

[Ntrik_]

anyways, whats B.O.? and why critisize me? and how can u make Head Hunters in NE? and 10 wisps for wood is waste of food supply 5~8 is enuf.

 

[VBadGirl]

HH stands for hunteress hall not berseks (head hunters)

B.o= building order

10 wisps = are to be able to fast lay 2 aows and get 3 wells in no-time alone with a fast teh also.

the above msg was directed to m1nt and about that chalange it was iderected at you also as u keep insisting archers beat hunts.

 

[None293823]

VBad you should try 1v1 even not archers vs hunts but hunts vs hunts.It wont hurt so much.You can try even 1v1 with me.I play NE too so why dont you want NE v NE

 

[Ntrik_]

hmm ive seen this b4... and lost to this NE:
-he went mass archer at first with KotG
-he kept on killing 1 of my huntress by entangle
-then he massed hunts
-i started making archers as well
-i lost =/

 

[Samsara]

guys stfu about vbad. she has proven in the past that hunts pwn riflemen at tier one and if riflemen are better IN ALL KNOWN WAYS than archers, then how in the name of sliced bread will they beat hunts?

NE is overwhelmingly rigged at tier 1 for the sole reason that hunts+glaive throwers =cheez pwnage to any team possible, including mass grunts with hh, riflemen, fiends, ghouls and whatever under the sun.

glaive throwers are the only tier one unit that can stand a chance against huntress, see this replay and ul see that both players (theroy and swooper) use the same strat just because it is sooo effective. plz dont yell at me for posting this swoop.

 

[Ntrik_]

i know, i know swooper and theroy's strat for NE, but im jus saying.. that i lost to some NE (was ranked very high in RoC) from that build i put up... =/ He eventually massed hunts, so =/

 

[VBadGirl]

in a ne vs ne match where both are massing hunts legend, the person that gets balista first wins. I had a replay somewhere that i can show u what i mean.

the only way he could have won that match with archers + kotg is if he outmicroed u badly. try going warden and pick SS or even FOK...u'll see what a differnce makes. or even POTM, a very popular choice in mirror matches (ne vs ne).

Indeed tier 1 hunts beats anything other races have at tier one. thats why most of the players chose to teh. they build some defense (arcane tower, nerubuian tower..etc) and they creep as much as they can. because at tier 2 is when ne are weak.

I also have a replay where i can show u what it means to be outmicroed. its a match against 2 of my best friends (1 ne- 1 orc). the orc player loses everything (grunts, hh, demolisers...) to 4 dryads and 2 bears. I have to ask thier permision before i put it. . and as a side note...both players are good solo players.

 

[Ntrik_]

Originally posted by VBadGirl
in a ne vs ne match where both are massing hunts legend, the person that gets balista first wins. I had a replay somewhere that i can show u what i mean.

the only way he could have won that match with archers + kotg is if he outmicroed u badly. try going warden and pick SS or even FOK...u'll see what a differnce makes. or even POTM, a very popular choice in mirror matches (ne vs ne).

Indeed tier 1 hunts beats anything other races have at tier one. thats why most of the players chose to teh. they build some defense (arcane tower, nerubuian tower..etc) and they creep as much as they can. because at tier 2 is when ne are weak.

I also have a replay where i can show u what it means to be outmicroed. its a match against 2 of my best friends (1 ne- 1 orc). the orc player loses everything (grunts, hh, demolisers...) to 4 dryads and 2 bears. I have to ask thier permision before i put it. . and as a side note...both players are good solo players.

Vbad.. plz i know how NE vs NE wins when both masses hunts.. but what i mean is:
-1st mass some archers (KotG hero)
-then switch to Hunts
-then siege.

and yes.. i had potm, and he had amazin micro.... (well not that amazin.. but his micro was rusted as mine, like i said, old RoC player)


and dont put up the replay.. iget the picture, and if u really want to, go ahead.

 

[VBadGirl]

lol...i will keep saying... if u start with archers while i am massing hunts...u will die!. i will get mass hunts with balista. even! if the the archers dont take extra from the siege..thier poor life gets them killed.

or i can keep entangling ur archers and concentrate with hunts and balista on ur hunts. can u say owned?

trust me legend. archers at tier 1 are the weakest link in ur formation. it has been tried...and archers + hunts dont work at tier 1.

the only time u can get few archers is if u got a melee hero and u need to power-creep. in any other situation...forget it.

and as i kept saying... 1v1 me. i'll prove it to u what i mean with archers being the weakest link.

 

[Ntrik_]

sigh... u jus dont get it now do u? entangle ur hunts, bamn, he dies. I change to mass hunts.. and btw i have never tried this build, this build is jus from one of my opponent. and btw when u get ballista, i will have about 2 ballista and some hunts aswell. While you keep on losing ur hunt by entangle and focus fire.

 

[AzNsUpA-Boi]

hmm tru dat... hunts aren't that good in a late game

 

[VBadGirl]

Originally posted by N_LeGeNd)
sigh... u jus dont get it now do u? entangle ur hunts, bamn, he dies. I change to mass hunts.. and btw i have never tried this build, this build is jus from one of my opponent. and btw when u get ballista, i will have about 2 ballista and some hunts aswell. While you keep on losing ur hunt by entangle and focus fire.

I am not even talking about late hunts, they suck at tier 2. and an archer will die at lvl 2 entangle, even lvl 1. i dont even have to focus on it. a hunt will not even die at lvl 3 entangle.

3 hunts + 2 balista > 5 hunts

and 3 hunts +2 balista > 5 archers.

u wanna try it..i told u... 1v1 me. what u descibred was the fact he outmicroed u..not that he had archers and later hunts.