Science in America

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  1. TrongaMonga

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    You won the war against the british with the help of the french.

    300 years of history, with like 20 wars per century is nothing compared to thousands of years in permanent war, I'm afraid.
     
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    No more debate, moron
     
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    Bloody hell.

    Flag, sorry for the misconception. I actually thought those were your opinions. :p

    Second, quit bitching about eachothers english, it's annoying.

    Third, English is actually one of the hardest languages in the world to learn. Our words have many different meanings, we have lots of words, we have a whol intracit grammar system and so on. Just ask any one who learned English as a second language.

    Fourth, math is the language of science, not english, russian, german or whatever.

    Fifth, like Forged said in his sig (IIRC), the Nazis were patriotic too. Patrotism is a very deadly thing, and is the greatest tool of oppression. The line betwen patriotism and blind fevor is blurry, at best. And if you want to talk about patriotism, look to the Isrealis, they got it down packed.

    Sixth (damn this is getting annoying), Every country has had it's share of hard times and war. And again, if you want to bitch about hard times, the Isrealis still have you, and just about every country owned. They've been around for what, 50 years? And allready fought several wars (and won them), and have to deal with suicide bombing and global anger and disent on a daily basis. So quit bitching about who has suffered more, it's a moot point.

    Seventh (is that even a word?), Otto, use paragraphs, it makes your shit (and it is that) easier to read.

    Eighth, this is the Asylum, so drop the flaming.

    Nineth, Tronga, yes, we've got it good. W're located on the perfect area of the world, protected by 2 oceans, and allies on the other 2 sides. Hence, we've had more time to develop and become strong in other, better ways. Science, art, lititature, and so on. And our advance in science has subsequently made us the most powerful nation on Earth.

    Tenth (a nice round number to end it off), quit the patriotic pissing, cuz I'm drowning in it here, aight.
     
  4. Kuzmich

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    Russian is much harder then English, i am the one here who knows both languages i cant tell, English has a lot of rules but once you learn those rules you just have to follow them, in russian first of all there is a different spelling if the word is masculine or feminine and i mean totaly different, and we have lots of exeptions, there are words that you just have to learn that dont follow any rules then we have the complicated ending system, we lots of other stuff, and our words are designed to show emotion, for example you talking about the horse and you dont like it your say one word, if you do like that horse then you say another word, English is perfect for formal conversations, like then someone is talking about work, everything is strict and goes by rules.

    Excuse me but i am not the only one who is flaming here and i am and i am also not the only one that talks about patriotism, i would like to stop i mean i was not the one who started it all, i was insulted and replied to that insult in the same manner.

    Now about the Israelis they have suffered a lot i agree but their looses werent as big as ours and we have to deal with living buildings and schools being blown up by the Chechen terrorists
     
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    Well, all I know is what I've heard from other who have had to learn english later in life.

    Did I single you out?

    No, because they knew how to fight. They took on 3 countries at once. The only thing that saved you in WW2 was the Russian winter.

    They deal with the same thing. Their buses and building are attacked too.
     
  6. Kuzmich

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    ofcourse we didnt know how to fight, our army was unequiped then Germans first attacked and our army was wiped out in first couple of weeks, so after that people from villages and cities were just given a rifle, send to a frontline and told that behind you is your Motherland and let not the Nazi bastards pass, even without a winter we would have won just maybe we would loose a couple more million people, and do you remember how powerful we walked out of the war, some people even say that fighting that war and loosing all those people but progressing technologically was worth it, i am not one of those people. Today Russia army knows how to fight we have the most modern technology, and we know how to use it. The only problem is that we cant make enough of our new guns, and tanks to supply our whole army of 1.5 million people (this time everyone has a gun and was trained). You know that Russian military has designed the gun that is called the most revolutionary automatic rifle and even specialists in US gave it this title, it is not as cheap as AK so we only armed our special forces with it but now that all that money is going to be flowing into the military funds from cell phone companies making enough of those guns will not be a problem. i post a link to the sight with the description of that gun tommorow.

    And about that me making mistakes in your language thing, well it is kind of hard to think after you had a couple of beers and it is 5 in the morning
     
  7. TrongaMonga

    TrongaMonga Grumpy Old Grandpa

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    Don't take me wrong, I just didn't like at all when he said that no country was united as the US were in 9 11, as that's the most big case of american naivity (sp) I've ever seen.

    And, no, english is not, by far, one of the hardest languages in the world.

    It's actually perhaps the easiest. I just don't speak it fluently because I don't have the need to do it perfectly. You guys get me well.
     
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    We fought the majority of the war without them.


    If you would think about, if you have been at war with someone almost non-stop for thousands of years, you sort of loose that unity...

    Not to mention the fact people were not as patriotic a long time ago as they were today. Lets remember most governments were a monarchy. They didn't unite with one another, they just worried about farming enough food or paying the taxes so that they can live to see the next month.

    However, I'm sure your right. A certain country was more united at one time then the United States was on 09/11/01. But, within our life, a country has not been more united than the United States on 09/11/01.

    The point of saying it was not to boast, but to show Americans know more about unity than Russians in current times.

    I'm sorry if I offended your "oh so patriotic" self, because know one knows what patriotism is better than those Portuguese do.
     
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    (Not having read anything other than the first part)

    Let me sum up what you're saying... Americans are stupid.

    Seriously, i hate to make generalisations, but I can't argue with the statistics. What age bracket was this taken in? Cause I can get the correct answer for the vast majority of those (but some of the objects in the sky *ARE* alien ships!)
     
  11. TrongaMonga

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    There's a difference between patriotism and nationalism...

    And I still don't think you guys were more united that any country in the world... You just can't judge it.

    Well, I don't care anyway, nothing in this world will make you americans stop thinking you are unique.
     
  12. amrtin77

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    hey now tronga, were not all stupid :p meh, the first fwe weeks after 9/11 america had real patriotism and americans loved america... after that it pretty much wore off and being patriotic was the "cool" thing. and if you were unpatriotic or against anything americas government did you were anti-american... thats pretty bad when free speech is anti american in the publics eyes -.-
     
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    Liar, we're all idiots.
     
  14. amrtin77

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    sorry that must have been more stupidity spewing out of my keyboard... everyone can go ahead and forget my last post, it was complete bs im sorry.
     
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    Only fools are blindly patriotic to their country.

    Myself, I feel little loyality to America just because it's America. I am loyal to the ideals and liberties that it stands for and represents. And as long as America stands for those ideals, I will subsequently be loyal to America.
     
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    i have to disagree there are a lot of Americans who dont care about 911 Spike for example. And Russia was united more then anything then Kursk sank, i mean everyone cared exept maybe our president. People didnt start to place flags what they did do is talk they talked to each other about those heroes and i mean real heroes not just some innocent people who were killed by some bastards (i care about 911 too cause there were Russians in that building) but people who died defending their motherland and people who made as remember that Russian spirit is not yet dead, that was unity that feeling was unimaginable, we remembered fully that which we have forgoten because of all the bad things that happened to us.
     
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    The vast majority of Americans did care. Moreover, I would rather 1 person such as spike not care, than your own president. And trust me, more Americans cared about 911 than russians did about Kursk. And as for the ones who did talk about it...Americans talked just as much, if not more about 911. As I said before, Americans hung flags. Millions donated money to 911 fondations. Our country went out and got revenge.

    Furthermore...

    A sunken ship is a casuality of war. Those people were not heroes. They were just doing their job, and they simply died. Boo ****ing who. America lst an entire harbor containing its entire pacific fleet. Lets not try and compare tragedies.
     
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    then lets not try to compare any American tragedy to any Russian cause we had more of them and we lost much more, and so u were atacked and got your ass kicked in Pearl Harbor who cares? Japanies did the same thing to as during Russo-Japanese war they attacked with surprise like a bunch of cowards, and besides why did u even start talking about Pearl Harbor arent we comparing todays tragedies cause if we are taking about all the history of our 2 nations then Russia is way ahead of u on tragedies, if we are talking about 911 and u are saying that US suddenly became united after that well then that just means that u are not that good of patriots and u need something bad to happen to u to start feeling pride. THose people were heroes because they died for something not just killed to show Islamic hatred, like those innocents in New York.

    There are also lots of donations to the kursk fund, and money came from all over the world US, Britain, Germany, Brazyl to name a few. I went on yahoo once and found 100 of letters written by sailors in navies all over the world including US.
     
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    this is why many americans come to canada, cuz education here pwns usa :D
     
  20. amrtin77

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    goddamnitt who the **** cares? otmo why can you only talk about how much better russia is than america? i swear if i was to say "america has more ****ing clouds in the sky than russia" youd argue it. you acuse us of thinking america is perfect but neither is russia! i KNOW americas far from perfect, but why are you so blinded by patriotism? most russians are NOT that stupid and blind. theres nothing in your genetics that makes you good and perfect in every aspect because your ****ing russian.