cxoli said:
At least Tipsy will read my post...! I think...^^;;
You thought right.
Btw, welcome back.
Well, in your own relligion does it not say that everyone should preach and spread the teaching of jesus?? Isn't that what being a priest is all about??
Or do priests are the only ones to whom god talks to ignoring everyone else??
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The meaning of the word 'Catholic' should answer the first part. Though it is true God talks to everyone, a lot of the time people just don't listen, priests, cardinals, bishops, etc, unless they become pope, are not the Vicar of God on the earth. Nobody else has the ability to be infallible on dogmatic teaching in matters of morals and faith. As for should everyone go out and teach, a priest is in school for quite a long time, you have to go through quite a lot more than a four year college to become a priest. You might as well have someone who knows addition go teach a discrete math class. It would be nice if everyone had the dedication to become a learned person in the field of religion to go teach, but the majority of people don't know enough.
Well cause there are evidences of infinite reactions and none of infinite beings... and I never said it is true... there are no evidences of it still but is probable...
First off, it doesn't matter if this example is true or not, the point is I have been multiple examples by different people and in everyone I have pointed out there is an 'uncaused cause'. I have constantly repeated that this in no way proves God exists, but it does hint at one. Also, does this mean you admit there is an 'uncaused cause' or must we continue?
Now haveen't you ever heard of google?? Geeezzz
Here's the link any way... but it's the last ****ing one!!
Well let's see this. This seems to be a controversy, and yet you claim your side to be right over my side, even though historians do not even know, how peculiar. I wait for you to prove that your belief is correct. Here is the direct quote from that website:
From your link said:
However, Constantine's claim to conversion is not without controversy. There are many who see in his conversion rather the political realization of the potential power of Christianity instead of any celestial vision.
its not hypocritical at ALL to think a point of energy out of nothing is ok and god creating the poin of energy is not ok. ill tell you why: the point o energy comes from nowhere, defies logic. OK. thats settled. why do we need a god to create that energy? that STILL defies logic, and STILL has to come out of nowhere, but you arent even adding anything useful to the theory. its just an unnessicary step.
How is it an unnecessary step. If 'God', who defies logic exists in the Christian sense, then it no longer makes the particle that was created out of nowhere illogical. It makes just as much sense as the other scenario. Nothing exists, the universe is nothing, no blackness, no nothing, then a particle just randomly appears. Though this probably just turns into an opinion matter.
One thing they did, naturally, was attempt to make women look evil.
Post why you think this then. I have already pointed out how important the role of women is to the church. If you are saying that the role of women is minimized, which in no ways is similar to ‘evil’, then it is due to the society of the time period. The reason this effects the bible is because of how divine inspiration works.
You aren't using the actual 'bible', Tipsy, you are reading (guarenteed) an edited version of the King James version of the bible.
That is why there is so much studying needing to be done before you can understand the English version of the bible.
What I was saying was, maybe the Church should, well to put it in technical terms, give the bible a new patch. Bible V1.3 you know.
There is a reason Jesus put a church and specifically a Vicar of God on the earth. Just to point out, I do not mean he was put here to patch the bible, but to well proclaim his word.
Oh, and I'm not saying the Church directly hurts people by teaching them their religion, I'm saying all religion INdirectly hurts the world. Have you looked at Pakistan and Israel lately? All the car bombing and suicides, murders, and terrorism in general is fought over a 'divine' city, over religion period. Man is too stupid to accept others. His instincts are too base, and religion, or at least these outdated ones, do not teach one to adapt to the modern world. Men in third world countries are learning principals from a time when people were nailed to crosses by the masses, on a daily basis. Where war was constant. These can't be the right values and teachings for the 21st century, can they? Maybe the religion is righteous in it's idealism, but it needs to be modernized. Get the Bishops to do it...when theyre not having sex with the choir boy, that is. Of course Christianity never hurt anyone with it's teachings!
Maybe if people would actually listen to their religion. If I had to pick out the most important teaching of God, which Jesus did for us in the bible, and everyone followed them, the world would be so much better. Jesus said the most important things were to love God and love your neighbor (except he said it in a longer way). You can trace nearly every Christian dogmatic practice down to those two lines. I don't see how those two lines can be modernized, they are basically the foundation of the entire religion of Christianity. And for nearly all the other examples you gave, keep in mind, we are all sinners after all. This does not exclude anyone, from a priest to a Pope, a theist to an atheist.
Note: The belief that Jesus and Mary did not sin is the exception to this, but the only one up to this day.