T~ Zerg problem: mainly muta raid and lurkers

[Skyhr]

Zerg problem: mainly muta raid and lurkers

Ok, I'm beginning to see some trouble with the zerg.

1) If I rush with M&Ms, he counters with lurkers, sends them to my base, and rape!
2) If I choose to defend, he'll harrass the hell out of me with mutas and contain me, and eventually rape! I don't think I'll surround my whole base with bunkers.


So what buildings should I make first? Should I bunker contain him? etc...

thanks

 

[Alton]

Try....

Try puting one goilth and one missle turret next to every bunker. Missle turret will see the lurker, and goliath will go after it. While the goliath is shooting, the lurker will be hitting the bunker beacuse the always do.

Also, try to place a ring of wraiths outside of the enimes base. When he comes out, clock the wriaths. If he sends out overloards, its time to attack with all of your force. Send marines, firebats, and a crud load of medics! Also, during attacks, make sure you have a balance of air and ground.

Early in the game, make sure to have a rush of 12 infantery every 10-15 minutes. This helps keep the zerg done so the can't get there units to fast, but it does not slow you down much either!

 

[Sakuhta]

Well... as I use(d) to be the Zerg as my main.. I know a lot of the Zerg weaknesses.. what pisses me off etc. And what most people don't know, or don't care to exploit, is that Zerg can't stop a continous push. You need to attack before they get Lurkers, then just keep hitting again and again. +, Zerg heavily rely on quick or mass expos, so always take them out.. Zerg aren't as cheap as you'd think.

 

[Guest]

Yah, just keep trying to push your way with M&M and tanks. Later add gols and wraiths to your combo so
A)The wraiths are fast so can go back to protect your base fast
B)If you give it a lot of pressure, the lurks will die before brruwoed.

 

[Renzokuken]

If you rush with M&M, he shouldn't have Lurkers, otherwise it's not really a rush or he teched straight to them.

 

[TrongaMonga]

M&M against lurkers will always die, unless you have at least one marine with defensive matrix and send him ahead to kill zee lurker. You can also try to blind them, but he must have overlords or something that can see it...

 

[Sakuhta]

Basically, Zerg suck suck suck vs. rush... contrary to popular belief.. just rush and probably rape! will happen to him.

 

[Plumpamania]

Non $$ I'd say go for the air/ground combo

Even if non $$ I'd say to try and get a nuke up to contain lurkers. They are usually bunched together and witha turret by each bunker you see them, you nuke them, they die

 

[Phoenix2003]

nuke 'em? lol.

 

[Hot Action Akule]

Nuking is the most retarded thing to do on a non money, unless its really not an important game, or a really long game. And you're really rich.

 

[MannerTurret]

Marines shouldn't fear a few lurkers at all .. you need to micro, if you have good micro you can normally finish a TvZ off right when he gets 2-3 lurkers.

 

[Plumpamania]

One nuke can change the tide of a game, if you are playing 2v2 non money, you can do it ez.

 

[Phoenix2003]

except we were talking 1-on1.

 

[Hot Action Akule]

Originally posted by Phoenix2003
except we were talking 1-on1.

 

[x42bn6]

Zerg units are easy to kill. No need to Nuke. Waste, really, 'cos you could have a Comset Station and Scanner Sweep to see the Lurkers instead of nuking them.

 

[Hot Action Akule]

and if you dont have a scanner, you can just use tanks on the lurkers. (A lot of em burrow near supps, cause they are stupid and try to get as much as they can...)

Just attack the supps. They can be repaired/rebuilt.

 

[Phoenix2003]

if you don't have scanner there's always SVs. SVs plus tanks > lurks.

 

[exobyte]

And the irradiate you get from the vessels is good against the Zerg too (if you research it, anyway).

 

[Tiger_shark]

i had this problem before...i found out the best thing you can do is to get fast tank against an expoing zerg and quickly contain him and push forward asap.

I'll give a simple build order
8 supply
10 rax
11 rax
after first rax done, build supply
18 geyser, and add 2 scv on it when finished
build ONLY 6 RINES and hold your ramp, you need to save money for tech
23 factory
25 or 26 academy

after you begin your factory or academy, start building rines up to 12, and get 3 medics. Remember to have 300/250 when the addon for fac is complete so you can get siege mode and tank. Save stim research for when u are going to attack him, or when u have minerals.

Start to contain him when u have 1 tank, 12 marines, and 3 medics, bring along 1 or 2 scv. Siege his sunkens, build an e-bay outside his base and float it for further vision, keep building tank and marines and rally them to opponent's base. Build 1 or 2 turrets outside his base for detection, and maybe a bunker if u think u will need it. This will make any attemps from mutas or lurkers trying to break out futile.

If you scan and see mutas, make a couple of turrets around the your CC and a bunker, fill it with 1 or 2 marines. The zerg cannot afford to use their mutas to harass you because you are pushing forward and are going to kill their expo. Even if they do, they will soon retreat back to their base so don't worry about it too much.

Keep going on from there...

This strat works incredibly well because by the time you start a factory, the zerg can't even start their lair, so you have a huge advantage. By the time you get to his base, his lurker research will probably be 1/2 done, or his spire will be 1/2 done.

 

[Madball]

yes nice strat. Cant stress enough how important it is for Terran to be offensive. Always try to contain a zerg as fast as possible,