Sins

[Deranged Hydralisk]

if jesus supposedly forgave believers for their sins and spared them eternity in hell, then why cant he forgive non-believers? Isn't not believing a sin? isn't that forgiven?

 

[ORC-r0x0r-ROC]

Well, i dont think it said that non-believing was a sin. I dont think he just forgives everyone before they go to hell, then noone would have to worry . Its not like he spontaniously forgives people. You gotta ask/pray for forgiveness, non believers would'nt ask so, to hell you go!!

 

[Tempest Storm]

Denying the Divinity of Jesus and the rest of Christian dogma is condered Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, which is the only unforgivable sin.

 

[ORC-r0x0r-ROC]

I would'nt call simply being a non-believer would be "denying". what about all the people who got converted. If thats true then they would be unforgivable because they were all non-believers at one point. Not allowing people to believe in god and spreading a "wrong" religion would be Blasphemy.

 

[Deranged Hydralisk]

That's really stupid. I don't like religion becuase of stupid things like that.

 

[Overtone]

Heh, agreed. Religion doesn't make much sense to me...if Adam and Eve were the 1st people, were does evolution come in? And if Jesus died on the cross to forgive us of our sins, then why should we NOT sin? I don't know....confusion.

 

[Tempest Storm]

Originally posted by ORC-r0x0r-ROC
I would'nt call simply being a non-believer would be "denying". what about all the people who got converted. If thats true then they would be unforgivable because they were all non-believers at one point. Not allowing people to believe in god and spreading a "wrong" religion would be Blasphemy.

It's blasphemy if someone tells you about Jesus and God, and you still outright deny the "truth" of it all.

 

[shutupandgoaway]

There is no unforgivable sin, thus disbelief is not unforgivable. Only those who accept Christ are forgiven. Also, i wouldn't say that it's blasphemy to deny the truth of Christianity, i'd say it's blasphemy to defile Christianity.

 

[Ciphus]

Those are small little simple solutions that people who don't seek the truth won't find. I don't mean that as a flame at all, I hope it didn't come out right.

Jesus died on the cross to forgive all sins, both past and present. That's also getting into "orignal sin" but I'll back off of that. Anyhow, to recieve forgiveness you have to pray to the lord. If you are not a believer in god, then it's a little hard to do that.

Also, about Adam and Eve being the first people on earth. If you believe in creation, then evolution NEVER comes in. But that is getting into a whole different debate. That's creation vs. evolution. Which we could get into if you really want to.

I realize this post is coming off as a flame, but that's not my intention. I apologize if it's coming off like that.

 

[Archangel Gabriel]

Ahh Evolutionism vs. Creationism


Evolutionism:Not enough proof, We did not evolve from apes, and although adaption is needed, it is not like that

Creationismroof that Dinos and Men once walked together, Dinos extinct due to great flood, Documents of nearly every european country of Christ and Disciples and when the "Big Bang Theory" happened all planets would be spinning in the same way, however 2 planets in the system are not going the correct wya therefore proving Evoulutionism wrong

 

[amrtin77]

sorry, id have to say evolution has more proof than saying some mystical creature made us out of nothing. if you believe in a god i respect that, but realize you have no proof to believe in that god. it is all faith in the end, and that is no proof.


your "proof" is based on false information and some similarities to the bible. the bible is not god. the bible was written by humans and the church is constantly trying to twist it to make it seem realistic.... it just isnt as believeable as evolution.

 

[Archangel Gabriel]

as i said about marriages keep ur own beliefs to urself

 

[amrtin77]

can you give me one good reason i should keep my mouth shut on these forums?

 

[RoaCh of DisCord]

Originally posted by Archangel Gabriel
as i said about marriages keep ur own beliefs to urself

This forum is for debate. Don't tell people to keep their beliefs to themself. That would make this forum pointless.

 

[Ntrik_]

i dont deny bible. I dont deny existance of Jesus, but denies divinity. I deny creationism, i dont deny with evolution.


And no body can judge me for these statements, nor can anyone judge which statements are the 'sins'. Only God, presumeably existing one, can. Not eldars, not moderators, no admins, but God. Period.

 

[Tempest Storm]

Originally posted by shutupandgoaway
There is no unforgivable sin, thus disbelief is not unforgivable. Only those who accept Christ are forgiven. Also, i wouldn't say that it's blasphemy to deny the truth of Christianity, i'd say it's blasphemy to defile Christianity.

"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation." Mark 3:29

 

[amrtin77]

so if you talk about god in a disrespectful way once your burning in hell? im burning in hell for more than a few eternities then. learn something new everyday

 

[Tempest Storm]

Originally posted by Archangel Gabriel
Evolutionism:Not enough proof, We did not evolve from apes, and although adaption is needed, it is not like that

Creationismroof that Dinos and Men once walked together, Dinos extinct due to great flood, Documents of nearly every european country of Christ and Disciples and when the "Big Bang Theory" happened all planets would be spinning in the same way, however 2 planets in the system are not going the correct wya therefore proving Evoulutionism wrong

A link to where dinos and men walked together please.

Everything else there is nothing more than opinion.

And if you tell someone to keep their opinions to themselves one more time, I''ll have you barred from this forum. This is for debating, not telling ppl to shut because they disagree with you.