Emperor Pan I
Respected Member
Okay, just so the whiney bitches stop whining in my ear, i will write a small guide to taking on the "big cheese".
First off, igf ur opponent is NE, expect the beast master! NE players are idiots who think that the BM is the only way for them to win.
If u start on a tavern map, scout to see if they are making the BM and see what they are getting with it. usualy at lower levels it is a "ignore the bm and kill the supporting units" ie. archers.
Mainly each race gets anticasters and in this case, anti-summons at tier 2. neutrals are recieved at tier 1.
Neutrals
The following units either have purge, or abolish magic. these units do not cost much, and they are good for all summons, not just the BM.
Forest Troll shadow priest-Abolish magic
Kobold Geomancer-abolish magic/slow
Satyr Soulstealer-mana burn
gnoll warden-purge
now for each race counter, in conjunction with the neutrals.
humans
to start, the blood mage and syphon mana is one way to suck the mana out of the BM.
Many may say spellbreakers, but if u must know, spell breakers DO NOT CONTROL LVL 2-3 bears and level 3 hawks.
Priests dispel deals 200 damage. Against a level 3 bear, u will need to cast it 6 times if u wanted to take out it just with priests, but that is why the above mercs with the pries helps out.
Orcs
Probably the BEST way to deal with the BM is shamans. think about it. purge deals 400 damage, which is double that of dispel, slows the target and costs 75 magic. and it is easier to cast on the summons.
It takes a spirit walker about 4 casts of disenchant to destroy a bear. This is good because it doesnt have a cool down, but only costs 125 mana.
Night elf
The demon hunter, to start off, has mana burn which takes a chunck out of the already low mana pool of the BM.
The dryad is another unit to use, since dispel deals 300 damage to summons.
Fairy dragons I would suggest against going farie dragons, since they do little damage to casting heros.
Undead
DL sleep. The best i can come up with is either sleeping the BM, or the hawk and bear.
Destroyers, and devour magic, which is a poor excuse for a summoning counter only deal 180 and is Tier 3. Which pretty much means undead is ****ed without neutrals.
for the BM, he is a tank, so focusing on him isn't always the best idea. unless you are ud with triple hero nuke, or human iwht mass aoe spells, it is usualy best to deal with the other annoying units around.
First off, igf ur opponent is NE, expect the beast master! NE players are idiots who think that the BM is the only way for them to win.
If u start on a tavern map, scout to see if they are making the BM and see what they are getting with it. usualy at lower levels it is a "ignore the bm and kill the supporting units" ie. archers.
Mainly each race gets anticasters and in this case, anti-summons at tier 2. neutrals are recieved at tier 1.
Neutrals
The following units either have purge, or abolish magic. these units do not cost much, and they are good for all summons, not just the BM.
Forest Troll shadow priest-Abolish magic
Kobold Geomancer-abolish magic/slow
Satyr Soulstealer-mana burn
gnoll warden-purge
now for each race counter, in conjunction with the neutrals.
humans
to start, the blood mage and syphon mana is one way to suck the mana out of the BM.
Many may say spellbreakers, but if u must know, spell breakers DO NOT CONTROL LVL 2-3 bears and level 3 hawks.
Priests dispel deals 200 damage. Against a level 3 bear, u will need to cast it 6 times if u wanted to take out it just with priests, but that is why the above mercs with the pries helps out.
Orcs
Probably the BEST way to deal with the BM is shamans. think about it. purge deals 400 damage, which is double that of dispel, slows the target and costs 75 magic. and it is easier to cast on the summons.
It takes a spirit walker about 4 casts of disenchant to destroy a bear. This is good because it doesnt have a cool down, but only costs 125 mana.
Night elf
The demon hunter, to start off, has mana burn which takes a chunck out of the already low mana pool of the BM.
The dryad is another unit to use, since dispel deals 300 damage to summons.
Fairy dragons I would suggest against going farie dragons, since they do little damage to casting heros.
Undead
DL sleep. The best i can come up with is either sleeping the BM, or the hawk and bear.
Destroyers, and devour magic, which is a poor excuse for a summoning counter only deal 180 and is Tier 3. Which pretty much means undead is ****ed without neutrals.
for the BM, he is a tank, so focusing on him isn't always the best idea. unless you are ud with triple hero nuke, or human iwht mass aoe spells, it is usualy best to deal with the other annoying units around.
....... still devour is pretty crap....
