Is orc the weakest race?

[Bishop]

after hearing lots of top players' interviews they all share a common opinion. orc is underpowered. even 4k.grubby agrees because the lack of an early dispel costs lots of games from sorceress and necros. "usually i make spirit walkers just for dispel, otherwise i find them useless"-4k.grubby

and another aspect you have to consider is the pain in the neck lack of anti air. you have to kill off 2 bats in order to kill a griffon while you will end up paying more than the griffon is worth. should ensnare be auto cast like web? that would make the raider see more play.

opinions?

 

[Ntrik_]

gruntapult with mix of some bat riders and raiders pwn.

 

[Clippers]

It all depends on what your question is based on.Personaly i think Orc is to buff with melee deffinily needs more AA or even buffer Air. Personal i would like to see and Frosty but orc style =)

 

[Aragorn7]

I really think orc can finally compete in this patch. Regardless of what most would think, they can finally beat NE for once!

 

[Ntrik_]

^^ 3 most active user in war3 forum other than NOOB_PHUCKER and more... bah

anyways, orc isnt weakest, there is no weakest infact, it all depends on micro.

 

[Bishop]

ya but didnt we discuss how human will always beat orcs at tier 3?

 

[x42bn6]

... Unless Gruntapault rush.....

Nope. But the heroes could do with some boosting. I WANT A 20 SECOND BLADESTORM!

 

[Ntrik_]

no heros are fine as they are, far seer rush pwns me if orc has good micro in the beginning, since i mass archer then make riders =/

 

[Ued_colonial]

bladestorm sucks now, **** 7sec and 110 damage, hell the old one was better

 

[Bishop]

/\ btw ued its "quoth the raven"


OT: then how is it that orc can counter mass gargs huh? in the end u will be the one that is paying more gold. and i have yet to see a raider see play since ROC.

 

[Ntrik_]

bladestorm sucks now, **** 7sec and 110 damage, hell the old one was better

now now.. it will be = 770 dmg.. and around BM too... not jus a unit.. isnt that alot of dmg for ult spell? Also.. if u notice... 110 dmg is pretty damn lot for 1 second...

Also, raiders can pwn gargs... they got medium armor, ensare, smash those gargs with unarmor with siege attack.. also bat riders..

 

[shutupandgoaway]

NO!!!Don't buff the BM. He's already a match for an MK with his WW, and his huge damage. I'd say the orc heroes are definetly some of the best, though their spells have rather obscure uses.

 

[AHappyChineseBoy]

every race has a weakness i think!

orc = lumber, anti air, anti casters
human = being rushed
UD = lack of melee?, they're ugly
ne = lack of melee!

 

[dP]

grunt>footman
grunt>ghoul
grunt>archer

grunt is the best basic unit but the cost sux

the problem with orc is that theyre too x-pensive in teh beginning

 

[Aragorn7]

Originally posted by DEAD_PeASENT2
grunt>footman
grunt>ghoul
grunt>archer

grunt is the best basic unit but the cost sux

the problem with orc is that theyre too x-pensive in teh beginning

I definitely agree. However, their harassing is amazing.

 

[Samsara]

Yes but the moment you let the opponent reach tier 3, i suggest you bend over and kiss your ass goodbye because the enemy gets their big bad air unit (wyrms, chims, griffons) and their casters reach "master" status which means cripple ur tauren (or posses), polymorph anything that moves, and cyclone your army.

 

[Torubu]

I shouldn't have to outmicro somebody to hell and back just to win. But let's see, how can they stop me from outmicroing them? Entangle focus, bolt focus, slow focus, nova focus, coil/nova/carrion, coil/nova/impale.

 

[Gotchicken]

I think that orc needs some better aa and like greater healing pots at tier 2 voodoo lounge against the other races nukes.
or somthing eles to help defend nuke

every race has a weakness i think!

orc = lumber, anti air, anti casters
human = being rushed
UD = lack of melee?, they're ugly
ne = lack of melee!
ne has mgs that make it almost imposible to kill anything behind them thats ranged.
ud has aboms ghouls and skellys. if skellys count.....

 

[Aragorn7]

Originally posted by Torubu
I shouldn't have to outmicro somebody to hell and back just to win. But let's see, how can they stop me from outmicroing them? Entangle focus, bolt focus, slow focus, nova focus, coil/nova/carrion, coil/nova/impale.

Yes, I can't really say that I have even tried to play orc competitively. I do know that they are doing better than when the beastmaster was around however. Orc have more of a chance now than they did in 1.12, so be happy.

I still think this whole game needs tweaking BTW. Not just orc.

 

[Ntrik_]

orc = lumber, anti air, anti casters
human = being rushed
UD = lack of melee?, they're ugly
ne = lack of melee!
ne has mgs that make it almost imposible to kill anything behind them thats ranged.
ud has aboms ghouls and skellys. if skellys count.....

let me give u some correction:
human = being rushed? lol how come when im HU, when im rushed i still live and win?
orc: lack of wood? jus get workers,
UD: lack of melee? why are there abom, for fun?!?!? or for uglyness..
NE: lack of melee? why is there MG? how about claw? are they there to reproduce more archers by having SECKS@?!?!?!?

rofl, none of the races have weaknesses, but unique properties. All races are rigged when played by xpert microer.

period.