They are only dying for one cause and that is Bush's greed. You would be foolish to think otherwise.
We could, on the other hand, not fight them there and not fight them in the United States by securing our boarders, then again Bush thinks a Guest Worker Program is more important than securing the boarders. As for rooting out the terrorists, us being there is an incentive in itself to become a terrorist, leaving the Middle East removes that incentive. How much of an incentive will someone have to attack the United States if the United States isn't screwing them? It isn't just Iraq, it's all around the Middle East. Everything from calling democratic elections in Gaza + the West Bank and then when we didn't like who won we pulled our financial support to the government to helping prop up the Saudi government.
I wouldn't give him props for being reelected, it had more to do with the Democrats running someone perceived as bad if not worse than Bush more than him being a great candidate. It's more of a Democrats lost than a Republicans won if you get what I'm saying.thebastardsword said:
...and appeasement to the likes of which we have never seen since the 30's.B~E said:
It's more than that now; it's also blood on the hands of Democrats since they got elected. They get voted in to stop Bush's bullshit and what do they do? Let's keep funding the war. Let's make the illegal warrantless wiretaps legal (though it expires in 2 months). No matter how much partisanship hatred there is between the majority in Congress and Bush, they all seem to be taking the same path.The Ugly One said:
That is complete nonsense. Until US went there where were no terrorists in Iraq. The terrorists that attacked US on 9/11/2001 are in Pakistan having no hand at all in what is going on in Iraq. You are very lucky that there were no attacks on US but it definitely has nothing to do with Bush's "war on terror". Meanwhile Iraq is the breeding ground for terrorists much like Afghanistan was in the 80s with the Soviet Union where do you think the Taliban came from in the first place? The Iraq war is solving nothing and is not crushing the terrorism in the middle east in any way instead it is fueling the hatred and producing even more terrorists.
Eh...well, we like oil, so does everyone else, who can blame us?
Where was never a President in US who hasn't gotten reelected after starting a war, perhaps thats one of the major reasons he started the war in the first place, oh well, as for the tax cuts....hmm cutting your gov'ts main source of income while your gov't is several trillion dollars in debt, doesn't seem like a bright idea. Sure its all good now especially for rich folks, god knows they could use more money, but it will bite every american tax payer in the ass down the road as its already bitting the lower class americans. Wanna ease taxes? How about not paying the "refugees" from other countries that moved to US over 2 times more a month then the elderly American citizens get in pensions?
Nobody is blaming nobody. But everybody is curious and waiting to see what justifications your country will use to claim sovreingty over this part of the Artic beign an extension of Russia's landmass wont cut it in an international court.
Ummm no. The democrats have tried time and time again to set dates to get them out but our fabulous president and our stubborn republican minority keep vetoing it.
thats how i saw it. who are you btw?
Saw what? The funding for the war? As far as I can tell you're saying your solution to funding the war would be to not fund it at all and just let the tax payers keep their money. And I'm sure you also think you "support" the troops, right? :rolleyes
I'm not surprised that you don't remember me.
tax cut was an economic thing was it not? i dont see bush winning any friends with raising taxes
. i file my taxes with monopoly money
Does anyone else see the hilarity in this?tax cut was an economic thing was it not? i dont see bush winning any friends with raising taxes
sorry, your e-peen blinded me for a sec
That means they are spending money that isn't really there, which is exactly my point. If you're going to blame the senate for not funding the war, you're blaming them for not having the money to fund the war, BUT THAT MONEY COMES FROM THE TAX PAYERS. Do you have any idea how bad an increasing debt is for the country? No, no you don't.
Oh. My. God.
they always spend money that isnt really there. in fact, sometimes they spend on what they think is simply projected instead of the real numbers they have.That means they are spending money that isn't really there, which is exactly my point. If you're going to blame the senate for not funding the war, you're blaming them for not having the money to fund the war, BUT THAT MONEY COMES FROM THE TAX PAYERS. Do you have any idea how bad an increasing debt is for the country? No, no you don't.
Oh. My. God.
I'm done talking to you.
I agree Home land security should be one of our #1 priorities. I was pissed when I heard they withdrew the National gaurd from the boarder. I think they lost about 1,000 men in doing so.
I can tell you watch biased liberal television or how ever you get your information. It is a love hate relationship. Of course people will hate us for being there. They were simply brain washed at a young age to sacrafice their lives for an outrageous cause. Iv talked to a few soldiers who have been over to Iraq 1-3 times. They all seem to have a more positive feed back than negative. War was never ment to be beautiful. Id rather believe in someone who has seen it first hand than someone who gives reports from the the comforts of home.Гражданин СССР said:
The simple solution is to pullout and not spend a dime more on that shithole. The only thing we have gained from Iraq is more people hating us, debt, and loss of life.
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