Gg?

[Harris.On.Rento]

So... cripple + lvl 3 howl of terror = damage reduction 100% = without dispel = gg. I know that HoT lasts only 15 seconds but the cooldown is 12 seconds so he can immediately cast it again when it ends. And cripple lasts 60 seconds.. and those two combined, enemy units do no damage at all.

 

[ChrisH36]

Too bad cripple can be dispelled. Howl of Terror I believe has to be waited out. Quite often, most people and noobs for that matter spam skeletons without knowing the awesomeness of cripple.

 

[TheoStormhawk]

So... cripple + lvl 3 howl of terror = damage reduction 100% = without dispel = gg. I know that HoT lasts only 15 seconds but the cooldown is 12 seconds so he can immediately cast it again when it ends. And cripple lasts 60 seconds.. and those two combined, enemy units do no damage at all.

nice observation. I think this could work against another UD because it gets dispel too late in the game.

Too bad cripple can be dispelled. Howl of Terror I believe has to be waited out. Quite often, most people and noobs for that matter spam skeletons without knowing the awesomeness of cripple.

cripple rules man, for me it has the same neutralizing effect as polymorph.

 

[Revelade]

Cripples only useful on units that do loads of damage, which are usually high tier units. As for heroes, it's only useful if they are in a state which does lots of damage like metamorphosis or if you are trying to surround and kill them.

Vs. an army of regular units, you are better off using skeletons and frenzing a couple of your high hp units.

 

[aphextwin]

cripple is the own

 

[ChrisH36]

cripple rules man, for me it has the same neutralizing effect as polymorph.

I know it rules, I use it the campaigns and in melee to cripple hard to kill units and make them easier to kill. Just some people don't use it and end up getting killed by units that could have easily been stopped once crippled.

 

[Harris.On.Rento]

I have never tried this strategy.. but it should work wonders vs. gryph, wyrm, chim, tauren and so on.

 

[TheoStormhawk]

I know it rules, I use it the campaigns and in melee to cripple hard to kill units and make them easier to kill. Just some people don't use it and end up getting killed by units that could have easily been stopped once crippled.

Yeah, too bad it is so easy to dispel it, actually that is why polymorph isn't used so much too.

 

[ChrisH36]

Exactly, as said in my first post of this thread

 

[TheoStormhawk]

I have forgotten about that post , sorry.
Anyway I will try in few games to rush (against UD only) too cripple and see what it comes out. I mean large scale, I'll try to cripple about 5 units(the most powerful), until the opponent gets destro, because after that necro become useless.

 

[ChrisH36]

I started to use cripple quite a bit in the final mission for UD in both brands. Cripple in RoC makes gryphons look like garbage and FT will make Myrimidons and Dragon Turtles suck.

Who you use it on is what the strategy is for. Just remember, that it can be dispelled.

 

[TheoStormhawk]

The easy dispel shortcoming practically makes it useless in TFT on battle.net

 

[ChrisH36]

Well obviously. All races can dispel it manually, and spell breakers can manually give cripple to someone else. Besides the 100% in that scenario only lasts 15 seconds.

 

[TheoStormhawk]

Cripple is MANUALLY debufed by the breakers now?
I new that only unholy frenzy could be stollen by breakers manually, cripple was automatic.

 

[Emperor Pan I]

This is all theory craft. -100% sounds good, but in practise is impractical. Also Cripple will effect a strong unit, but the initial casting will leave a necromancer with alot less mana. 150 mana only allows for a few casting, then your necro on the field becomes rather useless as it can't cast much else.

 

[TheoStormhawk]

I've tried is yesterday on the battle.net and it worked fine, it was against an undead. He wasn't much of a player but this theory worked fine, I didn't had much trouble except with that big as low armor pit lord. He almost died on me.

 

[Emperor Pan I]

I've tried is yesterday on the battle.net and it worked fine, it was against an undead. He wasn't much of a player but this theory worked fine, I didn't had much trouble except with that big as low armor pit lord. He almost died on me.

Good, now try it on a player who doesn't suck

 

[TheoStormhawk]

Good, now try it on a player who doesn't suck

you're funny.

no way man, I'm not risking with this strat against good players.

 

[ChrisH36]

Unless you have more men then he has and you harass his pants off.

 

[Revelade]

You might as well go necrowagon, since you will sure as hell be defenseless tier 2. If you aim to use cripple, by then, your opponent will bust out the fairie dragons, dryads, walkers, priests, breakers, or the worst of them all... destroyers...

I don't think focusing a strategy on cripple is a great idea. You are better off going necrowagon and hitting at tier 2 before he gets dispell units. Think of cripple as a bonus, rather than of main use. ONLY use it on high DPS/food units like wyverns, tauren or use it when trying to kill their hero.