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Web of the Free
By MARK A. SHIFFRIN and AVI SILBERSCHATZ
Published: October 23, 2005

New Haven

THERE is a move afoot at the United Nations and in the European Union to get the United States to give up control of the Internet - a medium that America created and on which it now critically relies.

Disingenuously calling for a "model of cooperation" in Internet governance in advance of the World Summit on the Information Society to be held in Tunisia in November, the European commissioner for information society and media is opening the door to Internet regulation while saying that "we have no intention to regulate the Internet."

This maneuver amounts to a call for the United States to depend on the kindness of strangers in maintaining basic infrastructure that underpins our national security and economy. Moreover, it threatens to whittle away the freedom of the Internet with a series of seemingly minor and well-intentioned compromises that begin with something that sounds as reasonable as a "model of cooperation."

Any society needs certain basics to enable it to function. If the United States had not created a postal service and post roads, for example, national commerce could not have developed. Airports and air routes, railways and highways are just modern-day post roads. The Internet is one more step in this evolution. It provides new tools for communication (supplementing regular mail with e-mail), buying and selling goods (electronic retailing with goods delivered by public and private mail services), financial transactions, and much more.

The Internet has become an integral part of the global economy, in large part because the United States has also provided the genius of our technology to other societies that use it to benefit themselves, including in doing business and competing with the United States. So it was only a matter of time before foreign powers began asking who should control the electronic superhighway on which they now rely for their national well-being, something that America has built, paid for and maintained.

Their eyes have turned to a California-based nonprofit organization created by the Commerce Department in 1998, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, that administers and keeps track of all Web addresses worldwide. Icann, as it is called, operates largely free from government interference - the Commerce Department has never overruled an Icann decision, believing that government should not become involved in Internet governance. And local authorities in other countries are free to set policy for their country-specific extensions (.ca for Canada, .de for Germany, etc.). But only Icann ultimately has the authority to allow a site onto the Net, or not, by virtue of its role of maintaining a master list of domain names. Imagine how much certain governments would covet such power.

American values caused the Internet to emerge and evolve as a medium of freedom. While there is a standard of transcendent decency that can and should regulate Internet communication in such matters as child pornography, there are standards of national self-interest that vary from country to country. China sees the Internet as part of its internal infrastructure and seeks to govern it as such, monitoring and censoring communications that include words like "liberty," "Tiananmen Square" or "Falun Gong," and going after dissidents who use the Internet.

Internationalizing control of a medium now regulated with a loose hand by a nation committed to maximizing freedom would inevitably create more of an opening for countries like China - a strong proponent of imposing some international supervision of Icann - to exert more pressure on internet service providers. More broadly, international regulation could enable like-minded governments to work in concert to deem certain thoughts impermissible online. It is all too possible that minority political or religious expressions would be widely repressed under a doctrine of the greater good imposed by a collective of governments claiming to know what's best, limiting what may be expressed online to whatever, say, the United Nations General Assembly, the European Union, or the Arab League, might deem reasonable.

Any society may, of course, choose to create its own balkanized domestic version of the Internet, an Intranet within its borders that it regulates as it pleases. It could then still do within its borders many of the things done by the Internet, like Brazil's online tax collection system, but would not enjoy the online privilege of worldwide interaction.

The Internet is an attractive commercial infrastructure for all societies, even oppressive ones. But the string attached to its creation by America is that it must be used within a context of freedom, both economic and political. That is a democratic value that we should not be shy about exporting. Accepting that commitment to online freedom should be the price that foreign governments must pay for the blessing of the Internet in their national economic lives.

Mark A. Shiffrin, a lawyer, is aformer Connecticut state consumer protection commissioner. Avi Silberschatz is a professor of computer science at Yale.
Article can be seen here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/23/opinion/23silberschatz.html?th&emc=th

I found this article rather interesting and think that this guy has it right. If another country wishes to have control over the internet, it is fully within their power to create their own version, such as was pointed out in the article. I don't have much to add because it seems like the article has pretty much covered the topic.
 

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And in the name of what should the americans give up such power over the world economy anyway? Because their invention was too damn popular? I dont think so. Plus, they've keep the whole thing pretty efficiently and free from censorship, so I'm happy.
 

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the internet is just a bunch of networks connected to eachother. it doesnt belong to anyone. thats just ****ing retarded.
 

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This bunch of networks was invented by americans, it need to be stored in a physical location, which is in America, and it always has been taken care of, by americans. So in the name of what would anyone else pretend to deserve to own it, if not the USA?
 

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a lot of this revolves around domain names.
most of the good ones have been taken and other countries would like to have the ability to reuse some of them.
 

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usedname said:
This bunch of networks was invented by americans, it need to be stored in a physical location, which is in America, and it always has been taken care of, by americans. So in the name of what would anyone else pretend to deserve to own it, if not the USA?

ok listen, the internet isnt really a physical thing that anyone can own. everyone who uses it "owns" it, as they own a computer that connects to that network. sure, some people have more influence over things that go on. but no one owns the internet.

i have something like 5 or 6 computers currently networked in my house. if i used a sattellite signal to connect my network to someone elses, the network would be bigger. thats all the internet really is. access to information by many people thats stored on webpages and peoples computers.


if all of the internet is in america, then please, do tell me the address of the internet. and why did we get airplanes flown into the world trade center? i would have hit "the internet building." come on now, the internet does not reside in america
 

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"if all of the internet is in america, then please, do tell me the address of the internet. and why did we get airplanes flown into the world trade center? i would have hit "the internet building." come on now, the internet does not reside in america"

Well of course. If the terrorists didn't attack it, the root servers must not be located in america. It seems the folks at Al Quaeda are as bright as you are.


Its the americans who regulate it, who take care of such technical things as Internet Protocol numbers, root servers, and, above all, the technical standards that must be formally established and coordinated to ensure the Internet's interoperability. The Internet as run smoothly under american care, and as such, I see no reason to share the right to regulate it, or whatever is it the rest of the world want to do with their share of control over the Internet.

I have two question:

-Would it be in Amerca's interest to allow countries such as China and Iran to further their censorship over the Internet with an extended control over it?

No, because an unstopped free flow of indeas in this countries is what can bring liberal reforms. So keep in mind that the very countries that most restrict the Internet within their borders are the ones calling loudest for greater control of it.
And two, to damage their access to the Internet is a wonderfuly powerfull lever of power to use against them. why give it up? Aren't you american? Dont you have any notion of national interest?

-And would it improve the Internet's efficiency and freedom it the control over it was shared?

Well, it is because of the the United States' hands-off approach that the the Internet flourished like it did since its efficiency and freedom of use and information are pretty much perfect, I think not.
 

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who take care of such technical things as Internet Protocol numbers, root servers, and, above all, the technical standards
What the hell are you talking about? ICANN takes care of the DNS type things, and the isp takes care of ip addresses...
 

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And ICANN is an american compagny, based in California. Now, where's the problem with what I said?
 

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Haha, well isn't that funny. You're one my ignore list now. ;)

Just kidding. But seriously, this doesn't answer most of the questions I asked above.
 

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I really don't see a problem with ICANN, there might be a few international issues if it were governed soelly by americans, but it isn't.

On that note just because something has a headquarters in the states does not mean it is ran by the U.S, take the U.N for example (bad example really but you know what I mean :p)
 
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