Paranormal

What do you beleive in as in paranormal?

  • Cryptozoology(bigfoot, loch ness monster,etc.)

    Votes: 1 4.2%
  • UFOs, aliens

    Votes: 4 16.7%
  • Ghosts

    Votes: 9 37.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 10 41.7%

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Kitty

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no TrongaMonga, my granpa ddint have a machine. i dont think so. my dad was like 18, and that was like almost 20 years ago. so i dont think he could have a machine, plus the hospital ddint have a very good setup. just a small lil hospital.

have you ever heard or poltergeists? those are scary.

i have an article about them here. i did some research since i did my speech project about them.

This is a spirit, usually mischievous and occasionally malevolent, which manifests its presence by making noises, moving objects, and assaulting people and animals. The term "poltergeist" comes from the German poltern, "to knock," and geist, "spirit." Some cases of poltergeists that remain unexplained and may involve actual spirits. In other cases the phenomena may be produced by subconscious psychokinesis (PK) on the part of an individual.

Included in the most common types of poltergeist activities are the rains of stones, dirt, and other small objects; moving or throwing of objects, including large pieces of furniture; loud noises and shrieks; and vile smells. It seems that poltergeists have adapted to the development of technology. They are known to have caused interference in telephones and electronic equipment, and turning lights and appliances on and off. Some poltergeists are said to pinch, bite, hit, and sexually attack the living.

Generally poltergeist activity starts and stops abruptly. The duration of it may extend over several hours to several months; however, some cases have been reported to last over several years. The activity almost always occurs at night when someone is presence. Typically this is the "agent," an individual who seems to serve as a focus or magnet for the activity. In most cases the agent is a factor, both those that seem paranormal or that may be caused by human PK. The agent is usually female and under the age of twenty.

Poltergeist disturbances have occurred globally since ancient times. In the late 1970s parapsychologists Alan Gauld and A. D. Cornell did a computer analysis of those cases collected since 1800 to that time. They identified sixty-three general characteristics, which include the following: 64 percent involved the movement of small objects; 58 percent were most active at night; 48 percent featured raps; 36 percent involved movement of large objects; 24 percent lasted longer than one year; 16 percent featured communication between the poltergeist and agent; 12 percent involved the opening and shutting of doors and windows.

Before the 19th century, poltergeist activity was blamed on the Devil, demons, witches, and ghosts of the dead. The Gauld-Cornell analysis found only 9 percent of the cases attributed to demons, 7 percent to witches, and 2 percent to spirits of the dead. Most of the demon and witches attributions occurred in non-Western countries. Poltergeist activity at séances was attributed to spirits of the dead.

The development and increase of psychical research during the late 19th and early 20th centuries helped confirm the conviction that poltergeist activity was genuine. Among the early investigators were two founders of the Society for Psychical Research, Sir William Barrett and Fredric W. H. Meyers. Meyers believed in the genuineness of poltergeist activity and that it was distinguishable from ghost hauntings.

In the 1930s the psychologist and parapsychologist Nandor Fodor advanced the theory that some poltergeist disturbances were caused not by spirits but by human agents suffering from intense repressed anger, hostility, and sexual tension. Fodor successfully demonstrated his theory in several cases, including the most famous "Thormton Heath Poltergeist" in England, which he investigated in 1938. The case involved a woman whose repressions caused a poltergeist outbreak and apparently a vampire attack. The Spiritualists severely criticized Fodor, but he won a libel suit against a Spiritualist newspaper.

William Roll, project director of the Psychical Research Foundation in Durham, North Carolina, further explored this psychological dysfunction theory. Starting in the 1960s, Roll studied 116 written reports of poltergeist cases spanning over four centuries in more one hundred countries. Roll identified patterns that he labeled "recurrent spontaneous psychokinesis" (RSPK), which are inexplicable, spontaneous physical effects. Generally, he discovered, the most common agent was a child or teenager whose unwitting PK was a way of expressing hostility without the fear of punishment. The individual was not aware of being the cause of such disturbances, but was, at the same time, secretly or openly please that they occurred.

Other investigators have also investigated agents finding that those in poor mental and physical health are vulnerable to stress. Patient having unresolved emotional tensions have been associated with houses where poltergeist activity occurred. When studying the personalities of agents psychologists found anxiety reactions, conversion hysteria, phobias, mania, obsessions, dissociative reactions, and schizophrenia. In some cases therapy eliminated the poltergeist activity.

However, the psychological dysfunction theory has been disputed by other researchers, including Gauld and Cornell who said the psychological tests employed were invalid. Psychiatrist Ian Stevenson proposed that spirits of the dead may account for more poltergeist activity than realized. In his study of a number of cases attributed to agents and to spirits of the dead, Stevenson noted significance differences. The phenomena in living agent cases was without purpose and often violent, while cases involving spirits of the dead featured intelligent communication, purposeful movement of objects, and little violence.

Poltergeist activities have been reported in many countries, and chronicled by occult writers such as A. R. G. Owen and Colin Wilson. The Epworth Poltergeist case is one of the best-documented cases of poltergeist activity. A.G.H.



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Sources: 29, 455-457; 62, 218.
 

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Interesting article KittieKitty. Concerning poltergeists, I believe that it's something to with with the 'unsettle spirits'. Argh! How can I explain???

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i actually believe i was under the activity once, some time during night id hear something like a mouse scratching wood. (no we dont have any mice in the house). when i look everywhere around it nothing was there. sometimes light around kept flickering. yesterday, all the time i pressed a button on the keyboard, id hera a funny sound. (no, the keyboard was not broken!). and sometimes my speakers would emit static. i told my dad, he checked them and said nothing was wrong, and that the static shouldt even have been there. it was really weird. what makes me even more nervous is that i've seen a ghost on a photograph taken in our school, and all the time during christmas, i kept seeing starnge lights. weird, no?
 

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lol, you are talking like 20 years ago there was no machines. Damn, men went to moon 40 years ago
 

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MAN U PEOPLE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS I THOUGHT IS THREAD WAS GONE BUT NNNNNOOOOOO. YA STILL HAVE TO GO ON ABOUT IT. END IT THERE ARE GHOST GET OVER IT.
 

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what? speak english please.

yes, ghosts can be shown on photos. most common forms are:

1) orb
2) mist
3) vortex

orb looks like a sphere of white light. thats the one i saw. mist looks like cigar smoke. it can be white, dark, whatever. vortex kinda looks like a white smugde because it is composed of many orbs together, traveling at high speed.
these ghosts can appear just about anywhere.

ask me anything ill be glad to answer, as i demonstrated a lot of knowledge on this topic :p
 

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"english!! i dont need that i never going to England" Homer
 

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Originally posted by Maverick
I'm sure it's no flying monkey. It's a saucer with a bright white light. I can't believe it myself but it happened.
a saucer eh? of course i dont believe you now :D.

if aliens had the technology to get all the way to earth and they arent invisable and for some reason they couldnt get info about earth from their home planet, why would they use such a crapy shape for an aircraft (a saucer). by the way are you sure you didnt have too many mai tais before you went alien watching?
 

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I can finally put some of my personal thoughts and/or experience in on this topic. I believe in ghosts because when I was a child of about 4, I saw a ghost. It was late at night and I got up to go to the bathroom. My house isn't that big and the room I was in at the time is right next door to the kitchen/dining room. When I opened my door I saw this dark figure of a person sitting at the table on the opposite side of the room from me. I had no idea what it was because it made no sound or attempt to communicate, but what I did know was a scary situation. I slowly inched my way to the hallway, the whole time the figure stayed there and it looked as though it was eating something. I got into the hallway to the bathroom but after I got back it was gone. That's the best example of ghosts I can give you probably. I have had one experience that I can remember of with UFO's. One night at around 1:00 A.M. a friend, one of my brothers, and I had snuck out to walk around town a little while. We all saw something strange, there was a jet of some sort that was very large, I think it may have been a stealth or something because it seemed to have a triangular shape to it, and there was a very small craft that was behind it at first but suddenly it flew ahead of the bigger jet and quickly outdistanced it. The weirdest part of it was the fact that none of the aircraft made any loud sounds, it was very quiet overall. I think there may have been a very low hum of jet engines but I'm not for sure about that part. So I know from experience that weird stuff can and does happen. Whether the latter was just two U.S. aircraft or not, it was still strange.
 

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man what is with all the Ghost stuff. maybe because i am a person of a small vocab. and few words. hahahahaha ooo. i made my self cry.
but i have had my share of runins of ghosts!? maybe?
 

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goko_ms just a lil off topic but for the part

KNOWLEDGE IS POWER
BUT POWER IS CURPED
SO KNOWLEDGE IS CRUPESION! which is in your sig

if you want to sound smarter then a toaster say

KNOWLEDGE IS POWER
BUT POWER IS corrupted
SO KNOWLEDGE IS Corruption

but of course maybe you spelled it like that to proof you arent corrupted :)



back on topic... kittykittie why do you think our rockets are shaped like that? its not only to get out of the atmosphere, that shape flies better through space
 

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williamdell i believe you completely. children have got a bigger chance of seeing a ghost because their psychikinesis is stronger than in adult.

okay, have any of you ever felt so cold in the middle of the night? it happened to me, i was under 2 blankets and i was still so freezing. i checked my window, it was closed. then something nudged me on the leg. ithough it was my cat, but it was an icy feeling, i turned on the light, and i didnt see my cat anywhere. this could be an example of a poltergeist dont you think?
 

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lmao, call it psychikiness :D

I prefer the term... imagination. It's far more adequated.

Children have plenty of imagination.

And, to that UFO experience, can be satellite, asteroids, anytihg u want.

Can be alien spance ship as well, of course.
 

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well call me a jackass but when i was 4 i was layin in my bed and i heard a 'sssssss' noise and it was like 3 in the morning (i woke up in the middle of the night) and suddenly the room got extremely dark and my lamp went out. the 'sssss' noise got louder and my leg suddenly got really cold. then suddenly my lamp came back on, the icy feeling was gone, the 'ssssss' noise was gone, and the room went back to the shade of light it had....i remember after that screaming and going to my dad and hitting him telling him ghosts were after me :|

now i dont know if i was a freaky little kid or i was just a dumbass little kid but i knew for sure i wasnt dreaming and for sure i wasnt imagining it.
 

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Originally posted by WilliamDell
When I opened my door I saw this dark figure of a person sitting at the table on the opposite side of the room from me. I had no idea what it was because it made no sound or attempt to communicate, but what I did know was a scary situation. I slowly inched my way to the hallway, the whole time the figure stayed there and it looked as though it was eating something. I got into the hallway to the bathroom but after I got back it was gone.
your dad woke up and ate something


Originally posted by WilliamDell
. One night at around 1:00 A.M. a friend, one of my brothers, and I had snuck out to walk around town a little while. We all saw something strange, there was a jet of some sort that was very large, I think it may have been a stealth or something because it seemed to have a triangular shape to it, and there was a very small craft that was behind it at first but suddenly it flew ahead of the bigger jet and quickly outdistanced it. The weirdest part of it was the fact that none of the aircraft made any loud sounds, it was very quiet overall.
it was a stealth plane for sure, you cant have a loud slow stealth plane, and they have been known to have a triangular shape
 

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sure children do have plenty of imagination. actually, there have been cases where the situation is jsut unexplainable.

psychokinesis is actually possible. have you ever ehard of uri geler? he can make a spoon bend (im not sure but he does have powers)

you yourself said that brain has electricity. then why not mental powers?

and no it might not be imagination. you really should know that world isnt all logic.
 

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psychokinesis... kittykittie please get a dictionary and learn how to spell it.

just because your brain has electricity doesnt mean you can use mental powers

im absolutely sure that bastard never bent a spoon with his mind... his hands maybe but not his mind
 

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I dont see it as logic. I see the world made by mathematic and luck (or the lack of it).

Brain have electricity indeed. That eletricity may be so strong in some guys that it can even make a very powerfull iman
 
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