P~good build order?

[Ntrik_]

good build order?

Well, does anyone know good build order and strategy (counters) for protoss? and not in money-maps...

I can win against comps, but not with players

 

[FakeNameHere]

First... you build a pylon

Keep these useless posts to a minimum. ~ Raccoon

 

[TrongaMonga]

And by doing that, you'd be dead fast.

I haven't been training SC lately, but for all I remember, first, you build a probe.

Then, at around the 7th probe, you build a pylon.

And then I can't remember

I need to play again, now that summer's coming

 

[Phoenix2003]

let's see:
pvt:
8 pylon
10 gate
12 assim
15 cyber
17 pylon
from here it depends on what you want to do.

pvz:
8 pylon
9 gate
10 gate
works well against zerg early expo

8 pylon
10 gate
12 gate
same as above except you don't halt probe production.

pvp:
you can use the same ones I gave in pvz.

island maps
pvp/pvt:
8 pylon
9 assim
11 gate
13 cyber
15 pylon
from here get robo facilty, observatory and take it from here.

pvz:
8 pylon
9 assim
11 gate
13 cyber
15 pylon
from here get a stargate, build a corsair scout with it and adapt to what does. if he goes muta/scourge, build another stargate, upgrade attack once and continue to pump sairs.
if goes hydras get robo and switch to reavers.

 

[Hot Action Akule]

Originally posted by TrongaMonga
And by doing that, you'd be dead fast.

I haven't been training SC lately, but for all I remember, first, you build a probe.

Then, at around the 7th probe, you build a pylon.

And then I can't remember

I need to play again, now that summer's coming

if you build @ 7th probe you'll **** your econ up. Go 8th or 9th probe before you pylon.... i usually go 8th. It depends on who you're facing... and dont worry about how many lots you have defending early on if your vsing probes.... one lot and a few probes can do a lot more than you'd think.

Originally posted by Phoenix2003
let's see:
pvt:
8 pylon
10 gate
12 assim
15 cyber
17 pylon
from here it depends on what you want to do.

pvz:
8 pylon
9 gate
10 gate
works well against zerg early expo

8 pylon
10 gate
12 gate
same as above except you don't halt probe production.

pvp:
you can use the same ones I gave in pvz.

island maps
pvp/pvt:
8 pylon
9 assim
11 gate
13 cyber
15 pylon
from here get robo facilty, observatory and take it from here.

pvz:
8 pylon
9 assim
11 gate
13 cyber
15 pylon
from here get a stargate, build a corsair scout with it and adapt to what does. if he goes muta/scourge, build another stargate, upgrade attack once and continue to pump sairs.
if goes hydras get robo and switch to reavers.

nice build order, but for pvp i think 9 pylon helps your econ a lot better.

 

[Ntrik_]

Originally posted by Phoenix2003
let's see:
pvt:
8 pylon
10 gate
12 assim
15 cyber
17 pylon
from here it depends on what you want to do.

pvz:
8 pylon
9 gate
10 gate
works well against zerg early expo

8 pylon
10 gate
12 gate
same as above except you don't halt probe production.

pvp:
you can use the same ones I gave in pvz.

island maps
pvp/pvt:
8 pylon
9 assim
11 gate
13 cyber
15 pylon
from here get robo facilty, observatory and take it from here.

pvz:
8 pylon
9 assim
11 gate
13 cyber
15 pylon
from here get a stargate, build a corsair scout with it and adapt to what does. if he goes muta/scourge, build another stargate, upgrade attack once and continue to pump sairs.
if goes hydras get robo and switch to reavers.

erm.. that means I build pylon at 8th probe, assim at 9th probe and so on right?

 

[TrongaMonga]

Yes, it is.

 

[Phoenix2003]

Originally posted by N_
erm.. that means I build pylon at 8th probe, assim at 9th probe and so on right?

Yeah, build pylon at 8 control and assimilator at 9 control.

 

[TrongaMonga]

Btw, that means that you should build it when you have 8 control, not necesserily when you have 8 probes. If you can do it before the 8th probe is made, then you are going well. After it get's out, then you'll have to wait a little longer for the pylon to be made, and thus you can continue to make probes beyond the 9th.

 

[Ntrik_]

I see.. well thx guys, Im gonna try this out in BGH ^^;

 

[Jimbo]

n_ no bgh for j00 , just try to stick with LT and Hunts , bgh is considered a moneymap =/

 

[Ntrik_]

fine hunts it is

I dont like Lotem, I always get pwnt in it.

 

[Guest]

Thats cause you haven't fully discorvered the geograpchy.

 

[Phoenix2003]

Originally posted by N_
fine hunts it is

I dont like Lotem, I always get pwnt in it.

well, you don't have to limit yourself to just LT, hunters or BGH. these builds are fine on alot of maps.(some better than others)
I gave island/hybrid builds, too.

 

[Phoenix2003]

slight change on island bos. where I said 13 cyber change that to 15 cyber and 17 pylon.