Undead Cheese
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But a fetus is a human. You can't argue the genetics.micro.micro said:but you cant discriminate on looks
yea but those right are only for humans which the fetus is not
But a fetus is a human. You can't argue the genetics.micro.micro said:but you cant discriminate on looks
yea but those right are only for humans which the fetus is not
Undead Cheese said:But a fetus is a human. You can't argue the genetics.
You are alright with 9-month abortions? Partial birth abortions?lizardbreath said:It's the beginning of the human process. Not a full human until it is born. You can't argue with science.
That isn't science; that's opinion. >_>lizardbreath said:It's the beginning of the human process. Not a full human until it is born. You can't argue with science.
He doesn't feel the need to be consistent in his reasoning.Lights said:You are alright with 9-month abortions? Partial birth abortions?
whats the difference between ending the human at the beginning of the process and the end? that its not born? correct me if im wrong, but i remember tipsy saying humans are not fully developed untill they reach their mid twentieslizardbreath said:It's the beginning of the human process. Not a full human until it is born. You can't argue with science.
My opinion on something doesn't matter against the science.Lights said:You are alright with 9-month abortions? Partial birth abortions?
Well, until you offer a valid reason as to why you feel this way, your argument is null and void. We have presented scientific facts to support our case, and you have yet to do this yourself. How do you expect me to argue with you when you fail to present an actual argument?lizardbreath said:To undead Cheese: The moment you are born you are a full human being. Don't be stupid with your replies.
Once something is born we admit to it's becoming a full being.Undead Cheese said:Well, until you offer a valid reason as to why you feel this way, your argument is null and void. We have presented scientific facts to support our case, and you have yet to do this yourself. How do you expect me to argue with you when you fail to present an actual argument?
if a human is a full human after he or she is born, then tell me why humans cannot reproduce untill a later age.lizardbreath said:Once something is born we admit to it's becoming a full being.
Until then it is not complete in it's development cycle. Are you denying that humans have no development cycle? Cuz if you are then you might as well just leave right now.
BTW: Your saying "OMG YOUR ARGUMENT IS NULL AND VOID" means about as much to me as the bug I just stepped on.
No, but you seem to be denying that humans aren't done developing until they're 25 years old, and even then they aren't done changing. For some reason you're not advocating that we allow abortions until the person in question is 25 years old. Of course, you're just being fallacious with this entire argument. The birth itself can't be what determines whether or not something should be aborted, since you don't support abortions in the third trimester.lizardbreath said:Once something is born we admit to it's becoming a full being.
Until then it is not complete in it's development cycle. Are you denying that humans have no development cycle?
i thought maturing was developing...check dictionary.com...lizardbreath said:That is part of the maturity process...not the development process.
My own opinion on it means about as much as your opinion does. The government is not allowed to force a women through pregnancy. It's simple. But, then again, even the simplest argument for you is hard to understand. What's funny is that I have purposely been repeating myself in this thread to here you guys go "OMG U R WRONG AND HERE'S WHY!!!!!!"Undead Cheese said:No, but you seem to be denying that humans aren't done developing until they're 25 years old, and even then they aren't done changing. For some reason you're not advocating that we allow abortions until the person in question is 25 years old. Of course, you're just being fallacious with this entire argument. The birth itself can't be what determines whether or not something should be aborted, since you don't support abortions in the third trimester.
i thought u were against partial birth abortions and anything in the third trimester. what is your stance on this issue exactly?lizardbreath said:My own opinion on it means about as much as your opinion does. The government is not allowed to force a women through pregnancy. It's simple. But, then again, even the simplest argument for you is hard to understand. What's funny is that I have purposely been repeating myself in this thread to here you guys go "OMG U R WRONG AND HERE'S WHY!!!!!!"
Lights, Undead Cheese: Please. I don't give a flying **** what your typing anyways. I will still believe the same exact thing as I did before. Oh, but wait a second.......there are people in REAL LIFE who agree with me.
Exactly what you said. Personally I disagree with the third trimester. But I can't find a legal reason to support banning abortion at all.thebastardsword said:i thought u were against partial birth abortions and anything in the third trimester. what is your stance on this issue exactly?
So the values of life are fundamentaly based on the reason of your conception? Is that so? Because you see, my mother was raped, and, thank you very much, my life is worth living!micro.micro said:2. incest
3. rape
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ok. that was harsh but i agree with the principle with what he is trying to say.Zerglite said:blah blah blah, who cares, they are just parasites living off of their mothers, nonproductive, ignorant, worthless masses of cells.
untill they are born, then they cry, shit, and scream.
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well that was your mothers decision but maybe other mothers to be ( 16 yr old girls who have just been gang raped for example) may not feel comfortable havin a child that was from a rapist. Or maybe they just dont want one at all.usedname said:So the values of life are fundamentaly based on the reason of your conception? Is that so? Because you see, my mother was raped, and, thank you very much, my life is worth living!
-It wouldn't matter if you weren't born in the first place. People always say "OMG BUT HE COULD BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT!!!!" When, as we all know, that is not a real argument because you are arguing on something that is never going to exsist/interact with society. It's like me getting mad at myself everytime I wackoff. "OMG MY MILLIONS OF SPERMZ WERE GOING TO BE PRESIDENTS AND RICH BANKOWNERS!!!! OMGOMGOMGOMGMO!!!!!!"usedname said:So the values of life are fundamentaly based on the reason of your conception? Is that so? Because you see, my mother was raped, and, thank you very much, my life is worth living!