Some ideas for Diablo III

[jandri]

I think there should be 2 sides in D3. Good and Bad.
2 storylines, like in Might and Magic VI


Some suggestions for chars:

Possibility to chose between gender/colors:
Beetween races:
good: Human, Elf, Dwarf, Minotaur
bad: Demons, Skeletons, Imps, humans, Ogres, Orcs, Giants, Dragons, Lizards,
Goatmans, Humans, Dark Elfs

Also 2 cults:
a) The church of Zakarum
b) The Cult of Darkness

Many schools of magic, we could find Magic books for each school (with pages with slots) and we could find spell pages, thar could be assembled in the books like the runewords. That would give casters powerfull spells.

Schools of magic:

School of: Cold Magic
School of: Lightning Magic
School of: Fire Magic
School of: Earth Magic
School of: Wind Magic
School of: Water Magic
School of: Light Magic
School of: Dark Magic
School of: Hipnotism Magic
School of: Blood Magic
School of: Stone Magic
School of: Rune Magic
School of: Prismatic Magic
School of: Death Magic
School of: Healing Magic
School of: Life Magic
School of: Energy Magic
School of: Destruction Magic
School of: Creation Magic
etc

Also the should be a lot of guilds/demon lairs/hideouts, that could give infinite random quests. Like kill a certain boss monster or retrieve an object.

Guilds (good only):

The Guild of Fighters
The Wizard school
The library of the king
The Knights order
The Church of Zakarum
The Guild of the Healers
The Sorcerer temple
The Monk unarmed combat School
The Samurai Dojo
The Templars Temple (Crusaders only)
The Amazon league
The Temple of life
The school of archery
The school of sorcerers

Demon/bad vilains lairs, hideouts: (bad only)

The ORC cave
The Giant Mountains
The lava Pit
The Church of Darkness
The Council of Hell
The Pirate Ship
The guild of thiefs
The guild of the Mages
The guild of assassins
The Goat temple
The graveyard
The shaman zombie graveyard
Werewolf forest
The gargoyle castle
Basilic gardens
The vampire castle
The Lich laboratories
Ghost graveyard
Dark Temple
The witch hut

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Special areas for good and bad
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The Gladiator school
The Combat arena
The Mercenary Cave



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------------22 classes, god and bad-------------


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Class: Warrior
Races: Human, Elf, Minotaur
Alignment: Good
Skills trees: Barbarian, Viking, Gladiator
Gender: Male, Female
weapons: all weapons available
gear bonus: axe, sword, spear, mace, polearm (both hands hold weapons)
armor: all armor available
shields: all shields available
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Class: Paladin
Races: Human, Elf
Alignment: Good
Skills trees: Knight, Crusader, Battlesword
Gender: Male, Female
weapons: all weapons available
gear bonus: Scepters, Shields
armor: all armor available
shields: all shields available + special paladins shields
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Class: Martial Arts
Races: Human, Elf
Alignment: Good, Bad
Skills trees: Samurai, Ninja, Ronin
Gender: Male, Female
gear bonus: Quarterstaff, Katanas
armor: all armor available
shields: all shields available
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Class: Darkness Acolyte
Races: Ogre, Giant, Orc
Alignment: Bad
Skills trees: Beserker, Pirate, Titan
Gender: Male, Female
gear bonus: Sabres (pirates), Giants (mace), Titan (axes)
armor: all armor available
shields: all shields available
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Class: Amazon
Races: Human, Elf
Alignment: Good
Skills trees: Bow, Javelin, Ranger skills
Gender: Female
gear bonus: bows, crossbows, javelins, spears
armor: light, medium armor available
shields: all shields available
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Class: Archer
Races: Human, Elf
Alignment: Good
Skills trees: Crossbow, Archery, Rogue skills
Gender: Male, Female
gear bonus: bows, crossbows, throwing skills, knifes
armor: light, medium armor available
shields: all shields available
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Class: Assassin
Races: Human, Goat Man
Alignment: Bad
Skills trees: Traps, Shadow Powers, Stealth
Gender: Male, Female
gear bonus: daggers, poisoned weapons
armor: light, armor only
shields: light, medium shields available
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Class: Summoner Druid
Races: Human, Elf
Alignment: Good
Skills trees: BeastMaster, Spirit Caller, Gargoyle Caller
Gender: Male, Female
gear bonus: Staff, quarterstaff
armor: light, medium armor
shields: light, medium shields
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Class: Necromancer
Races: Human
Alignment: Good
Skills trees: GolemMancer, SkeletonMancer, Bone Spells
Gender: Male, Female
gear bonus: necro wands + can hold a book of Death Magic spells
armor: light armor and necro cloacks
shields: necro special shields only
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Class: Beast
Races: Human
Alignment: Bad
Skills trees: Werewolf, Werebear, Shapeshifter
Gender: Male, Female
gear bonus: axe
armor: all armor available
shields: all shields available
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Class: Shaman
Races: Human, Goblin, Dwarf, Imp
Alignment: Bad
Skills trees: Zombie summoning, Demon sumoning, Darkness totems
Gender: Male, Female
gear bonus: Staff, quarterstaff
armor: light, medium armor
shields: light, medium shields
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Class: Set cultist
Races: Serpent man
Alignment: Bad
Skills trees: snake summoning, pet breeder, poison
Gender: Male, Female
gear bonus: Staff, quarterstaff
armor: light, medium armor
shields: light, medium shields
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Class: Spirit Caller
Races: Merman, Mermaid, Triton
Alignment: Good
Skills trees: Dragon Master, Griffin Master, Angel caller
Gender: Male, Female
gear bonus: Trident
armor: light, medium armor
shields: light, medium shields
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Class: Mage
Races: Human
Alignment: Good, Bad

Mages can develop only 1 of the 3 Skills trees: Sorcerer, Warlock, Wizard

Mage Sorcerers: can choose one element for there skill tree:
Cold, Lightning, Fire (like the old sorcerers in Diablo II)

Mage Warlocks: can choose one of the following magics for there skill tree:
Light, Dark Magic and Blood Magic

Mage Wizards: can choose one of the following magics for there skill tree:
Rune Magic, Energy Magic, Prismatic Magic

Gender: Male, Female
gear bonus: magical wands and orbs
armor: light, medium armor
shields: light, medium shields
Books: Casters can carry 2 Magical books of any one of the schools,
each book having a maximum of 12 spells pages, each page
can have 1-2 spells.
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Class: Cleric
Races: Human
Alignment: Good
Skills trees: Monk, Priest, Mesmer (controls oponents, mind blast)

Clerics can develop only 1 of the 3 Skills trees:

Cleric - Monk : can choose one element for there skill tree:
Earth, Wind, Water

Cleric Mesmer: can choose one of the following magics for there skill tree:
Mind Magic, Creation and Stone Magic

Cleric Priest: can choose one of the following magics for there skill tree:
Prismatic Magic, Healing Magic, Life Magic

Gender: Male, Female
gear bonus: Staff
armor: light, medium armor
shields: light, medium shields
Books: Casters can carry 2 Magical books of any one of the schools,
each book having a maximum of 12 spells pages, each page
can have 1-2 spells.
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Class: The scholar
Races: Human, Fairys
Alignment: Good
Skills trees: Bard, The Sage, Spellsword

Scholars can develop only 1 of the 3 Skills trees:

Scholar - Bard : can choose one element for there skill tree:
Cold, Water, Ice

Scholar - Sage: can choose one of the following magics for there skill tree:
Fire, Energy, Light

Scholar - Spellsword: can choose one of the following magics for there skill tree:
White magic, Auras, Destruction Magic

Gender: Male, Female
gear bonus: Staff
armor: light, medium armor
shields: light, medium shields
Books: Casters can carry 2 Magical books of any one of the schools,
each book having a maximum of 12 spells pages, each page
can have 1-2 spells.
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Class: Vampire
Races: Human
Alignment: Bad
Skills trees: Leech, Blood skills, hipnotism
Gender: Male, Female
gear bonus: daggers
armor: all armor available
shields: all shields available
Books: Vampires can carry 1 Magical book of only bood magic
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Class: Ghost
Races: Human
Alignment: Bad
Skills trees: Banshee, Wraith, Nightmare (cast nightmares)
Gender: Male, Female
gear bonus: only etherial weapons
armor: only etherial armor
shields: only etherial shields
books: no books
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Class: Witch
Races: Human
Alignment: Bad
Skills trees: Black Magic, Alchemy (Potions), Devil Worshipper

Witchs can develop only 1 of the 3 Skills trees:

Witch of black Magic: can choose one of the following magics for there skill tree: black magic, dark magic, prismatic magic

Alchemyst Witch: can choose one of the following magics for there skill tree:
alchemyst, purple magic, green magic

Witch - Devil Worshipper : can choose one of the following magics for there skill tree: Summon demons Magic, Blue Magic and Red magic

Gender: Female
gear bonus: witch wand
armor: light armor
shields: light shields + special witch hat
Books: Casters can carry 2 Magical books of any one of the schools,
each book having a maximum of 12 spells pages, each page
can have 1-2 spells.
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Class: Lich
Races: Dead Humans (turned into undead skelets)
Alignment: Bad
Skills trees: Occultist, Spellcaster, revive undead
Gender: Male, Female
gear bonus: lich orbs
armor: all armor available
shields: all shields available
Books: no books
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Class: Treasure hunter
Races: Dwarf
Alignment: Good
Skills trees: Enchanter (enchants items) , Crafter (makes items), Find treasure (huge bonus to magic find)
Gender: Male, Female
gear bonus: no bonus
armor: light armor only
shields: small shields only
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Class: Thief
Races: Goblin
Alignment: Bad
Skills trees: Steal and Hide, Runemaker (makes low lvl runes), Merchant skills
Gender: Male, Female
gear bonus: no bonus
armor: light armor only
shields: small shields only
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ALSO MIXED CLASSES
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Each classe has 3 skill trees
With mixed classes you can mix tree skills of each char.

Example:
Barb/Knight/Samurai have: 3+3+3= 9 skill trees, you can chose 3 of those 9,
creating a mixed char class. You could rename then your char class, the default class name for mixed chars would be adventurer.


Chars should have the possibility to riding beasts:
Dragons, Horses, to have wings and fly, etc

Rares items more valuable than uniques.
Gold more valuable

Possibility to change item colors

Some items should be only used by a certain class, sorcerers should not use giant axes or heavy armors, by example

Costumize our char size, weight, hair, etc

Idea for Magic find:
I think one infinite Magic find area, would be nice.
After the game ends, the players could acess to a tower, with infinite levels, each floor mor hard than the previous, but with more MF, you would need to party to manage to climb many floors. No tps alowed on the tower, and if you die, must restart on floor 1.

One arena for duels.

Guilds, with the possibility of building a guild castle and store our items there.
And donate gold and items to other guild members.

More bosses and levels would be nice.

Links with names and religion storys that could be usefull for create bosses
and storyline:
http://www.luckymojo.com/altmagickfaq/demonref
http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/Rapture/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/au_research/Texts/hhell.htm
http://demons.monstrous.com/angels_and_demons.htm#_Toc523971150
http://www.angelfire.com/realm/shades/demons/bookdevilsanddemons/ranksofhell.htm (the best link for diablo III boss names)


Diablo III should have the same graphic perspective than Diablo II, and no fee. Diablo III should be just like Diablo II with longer acts, better storyline, and new character classes, with even better uber equipment. :grunt

 

[Arkillo]

Why does everyone have to try to figure out a counterclass for each class out there?

They could just pull a 2sided thing, like on WoW. Not to mention half of the "evil" classes wouldn't match up to their "good" counterparts.

 

[Darkmatter]

Thats interesting, but to me it's just not Diablo. Diablo is more centered around single classes with no polar opposites, hence why they had the basics in the first Diablo and then just added different characters to the second. I hope D3 has more variety but not anything that copies what an MMO would do character wise.

 

[Arkillo]

Honestly, I think theyre going to keep like 7 or 8 classes. They might boost it up to 10, but I doubt it.

 

[Darkmatter]

Yeah, thats what I was thinking. If they make too many i'd be hard to bnalance everything for a game like Diablo. I also think that the way they do it, with xompletely different classes and no polar opposites and such makes it a lot more fun.

 

[jandri]

About mercenarys in Diablo III...

Instead of mercenarys the male chars would have a quest to rescue a princess, and after they could marry the princess if they wish, and luck should give random powers and beauty or uglyness to the princess.
She could be a ugly archer, or a beautiful sorcerer, or even a witch.
Or an Ogre lady.

The female chars would rescue a prince.

Also a quest who always give a unique item, should be present in game.
But people could do it only 3 times, like the imbue quest.

And some substitutes for uber diablo and cow level.
Perhaps cow level could be replaced by a gladiator arena.

And Uber could be replaced by a council of demons, if 8 players in game, 8 demons in game, all give special charm.

 

[jandri]

New bosses of diablo III

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Prime Evils:
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Diablo, the Lord of Terror
Baal, the Lord of Destruction
Mephisto, the Lord of Hatred

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Lesser Evils
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Duriel, the Lord of Pain
Andariel, the Maiden of Anguish
Belial, the Lord of Lies
Azmodan, the Lord of Sin

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Minor Evils
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Beelzebub, the Lord of the Flies
Merihim, the Prince of Pestilence
Pyro, the Prince of Falsehood
Zagam, the master of Deceit
Hecate, the Queen of the witches

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The High Council of Devils, servants of the Lesser Evils
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Adramelech, Chancellor of Hell and President of The High Council of Devils.

the Council of devils:
Abaddon, Astarte, Asmodeus, Baalberith, Belphegor, Cresil, Jezebeth,
Kasdeya, Kobal, Sonneillon, Mammon, Mephistopheles, Moloch, Nergal
Nybras, Orthon, Paymon, Philotanus, Rimmon, Buer, Ronwe, Malphas,
Caym, Thamuz, Ukobach, Uphir, Verin and Vetis.

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The 6 Guardians of Hell, servants of the Minor Evils
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Abigor Skeleton horseman with a lance and scepter.
Charon Boatman of Hell who ferries souls across the Styx
Geryon Giant centaur who (Dante said) guards Hell
Bearded Demon keeper of the Philosopher's Stone
Zaebos part crocodile, part human.
Xaphan Stokes the furnaces of Hell

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The fallen Angels
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Satan Chief of the Fallen Angels
Semiazas
Tyrael
Izual
Hadriel
Samael
Mastema

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the House of the Princes of Hell
servants of Mephisto, the Lord of Hatred
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Nysrogh Chief of the House of Princes of Hell
Eurynomus Prince of Hell who feeds on corpses.
Ayperos Prince of Hell
Balan Prince of Hell
Lilith Princess of Hell,
Proserpine Princess of Hell
Verdelet Master of Ceremonies of the House of the Princes of Hell.
Dagon member of the House of Princes.
Leonard Master of Black Magic and Sorcery
Mullin Servant of the House of Princes, lieutenant to Leonard.
Melchom Treasurer of the House of the Princes of Hell.
Succorbenoth Chief Eunuch of the House of Princes

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the Lords of hell, commanders of the Demon Legions, Diablo´s army
servants of Diablo, the Lord of Terror
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Orias Marquis of Hell
Andras, Marquis of Hell
Naburus Marquis of Hell
Aguares Grand Duke of Hell.
Alocer Grand Duke of Hell
Amduscias Grand Duke of Hell
Haborym Grand Duke of Hell
Valafar Grand Duke of Hell
Furfur Count of Hell
Raum Count of Hell,
Murmur Count of Hell
Astaroth Lord Treasurer of Hell.
Azazel Standard Bearer of the armies of Hell.

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the 6 Beasts of Hell, keepers of Baal, the Lord of Destruction
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Leviathan
Cerberus
Behemoth
Lilim
Nazzikim
Ruchoth

 

[jandri]

Bosses and NPCs from the good side.


'Long has the world battled against the forces of darkness,
and long has darkness cast it's shadow over the world.
Only now are the forces of light arrayed in all their glory and majesty'....


The Army of Arch-Angels :

St Andrew, fighter of dragons
Diana, the Huntress
Thor, master of storms
Metatron, the Bringer of Light
Uriel, the Seraphim
Sonorus, the Voice of God
Enoch, the antediluvian patriarch
Jorayel, the pure of hearth
Gabriel, slayer of demons
Raphael, right hand of god
Tarshishim, the Cherubim
Dunamis, the righteous
Malakim the pious
Michael, the dark
Bariel, the prince of light
Trashish, the powerfull
Satanel, the fallen angel
Camael, the one who sees God
Kemuel, the mediator
Israel , Lord of the seventh heaven
Muriel, the Lord of light
Yahriel, of the Kuriotetes
Zadkiel, of the Dominions
Hashmal of the Hashmallim
Nathanael left hand of god
Nisrock the old
Anael, the wise
Hamiel, the transporter
Ishtar the sage
Cervil, the Prince of Strenght
Remiel, the fair
Sarile, the justice maker
Raziel, the all knowing
Raguel, Slayer of Evils

Fonts:
http://www.esotericarchives.com/solomon/nameindx.htm
http://www.geocities.com/tragicpixie/Christangelsh.html

Diablo III storyline (from the side of good)

Blizzard according to rumors as hired a profissional writer, Richard A. Knaak to write Diablo III storyline. This author already made up some storylines for Diablo universe, (for the Blizzard Diablo books), but lets invent a little, why not, something like this:

Belial, and Azmodan, rule hell, with the help of the minor evils.
They have created The High Council of Devils, and have they control of the 6 Guardians of Hell keepers of enormous power.

Diablo and is brothers, after the destruction of the human bodies they possessed, return to the hell pits, and plot the overthrow of the lesser evils, with the help of their allies of the House of the Princes, they have raised many legions of demons, commanded by the Lords of hell, and they also control the 6 beasts of hell.

The Sin Wars continues between those 2 powerfull sides, without no one getting advantage.

Belial, and Azmodan know of the existence on ancient book in Sanctuary, hided by Tal Rasha of the Horadrim´s in a lost temple, the book of the Death, the Necromicon.

This book was created by the "the Unknown", the beast that created the Prime Evils, that beast recorded in the book some very powerfull spells, that allow to control and corrupt all creatures, demons, mans and angels.

In a great battle, before the sin war, the angels of god destroyed "the unknown", and hided the book in santuary. The church of Zakarum, was the 1st keeper of the book, but mephisto managed to control a lot of members of that church trying to obtain the book. But one of the Paladins, Zalayan, stole the book and give it to Tal Rasha of the Horadrim. He hided the book from the Necromancers and Fallen Paladins, in a location that Cain only knows.

This was the book that teached the Horadrim´s the secrets of building the soulstones.

With the knowledge of this book, Belial and Azmodan hope to create precious artifacts, the demonstones that will allow them to capture the souls of the prime evils, and win the sin war.

The necromincon, the book of death also teaches how to open portals,
between heaven, santuary and hell.

And as the secret of making 4 types of magical stones:

Angelstones (allows a angel spirit to be captured)

Demonstones (allows a demon spirit to be captured)

Soulstones (allows human spirit to be captured, they also allow to capture demon or angels spirit but ONLY if they possessed a human body, and the 2 spirits would be always in conflit inside the stone)

Runestones, when the player get the book in Diablo III he can make one runestone of is choice.

The Horadrim have created 3 soulstones in the past to stop the Prime Evils in santuary, because they have possessed human bodys.

And now the Lesser Evils plan is create demonstones to imprison the prime evils for good, and perhaps angelstones to destroy the army of heavens.

In Santuary, the corruption of the worldstone allowed the demons to create portals to enter this world. But only small portals... not enough to invade.

Diablo and his brothers also know the Necromicon, "the unknown" used is powers to control them, and they plan to get it. The prime evils want to obtain the magical book, and use is powers to open portals to invade santuary and transform santuary people in recruits for is army.

The book is the key to defeat the demons, and only Cain knows were the book is located, Cain, the last of the Horadrim... if he dies the location is losted forever. The Necromicon, the book of death, is hided in a lost city, but the book is guarded by 2 powerfull demons. Cain, asks helps of a new bunch of heroes to steal and protect the book.

Diablo manages to get the archbishop Lazarus back to life and send him after the book. He sends with him a demon of extreme power, Ozgandian the Soul eater.

Also Belial, and Azmodan send their agents, the fallen Angels, to get the book.
Tyrael was an agent of the lesser evils, in Diablo II, is objective was to destroy the worldstone, he never destroyed the soulstones, what the hero destroyed in diablo II were fakes. Tyrael still have the stones, and can use them to currupt humans, and change them into demons.

The Heros mission act 1, will be try to stop Lazarus and the fallen angels, but they fail, somehow diablo found a way to summon and control 2 demons that are locked inside the book, Yog-Sothoth and Cthulhu. With a amulet that he got from "the unknown", so now he as the book and the Tyreal soulstones.
Because Tyrael and the fallen angels were defeated in battle and left the precious stones behind.

Diablo now in control of the book and with the soulstones, can enter santuary and he opens one giant portal between to hell.
Enough for is legions to enter. They start to attack Santuary citys.

The heros were saved by the arch-angel, Enoch, who takes them to heaven city. From there the heros must stop Diablo Legions of attacking Santuary, so they must destroy the portal that is opened in Santuary, before to many demons enter santuary, and the citys of the heros are destroyed.

And for that, they must defeat the Lords of hell, the commanders of Diablo legions that are already in Santuary.

After the desctruction of the portal, the heroes return to Heaven city and plan to go to hell and get the book, before Diablo summons more demons and open a new portal.

The army of archangels, have an outpost in hell (the fortress of doom), sorrounded by Legions and Legions of demons. The heros are transported there. And now there mission is to get the book, from Diablo hands.

Meanwhile Belial, and Azmodan manage to steal the book from Diablo (when he battles the heros), and them and their agents go to Santuary to one old temple of the church of the death, (the enemies of the church of the Zakarum), for creating the demonstones. They plan to use those stones to imprision Diablo and is brothers spirits and keep them in prison forever in hell.

Now the heros must obtain this demonstones to stop diablo and is brothers AND Belial and Azmodan.

After getting the demonstones and defeat Belial and Azmodan, and the minor evils, the heros must return to the pits of hell, to defeat the Prime Evils.

The heroes plan is to imprision all demons spirits in demonstones, like they have done with Belial, Azmodan and the minor evils.

They manage to imprision Mephisto and Baal spirits in the demonstones, and they think they destroyed Diablo (lot of godly items fall in the ground), but he escaped somehow, the spirit captured in the demonstone was not is, but is the spirit of someone else that tryed to destroy him, (Cain´s spirit).

No one knows that Diablo escaped and the spirit captured in the demonstone is of Cain the last of the horadrim, the all think the Cain is dead and Diablo captured, but the demon escaped with the book, and will back for DIABLO IV.

Diablo III storyline (from the side of Bad)

You are one agent of Diablo or the lesser evils.
You must obtain the Necromicon and create the demonstones to
imprision the Prime Evils AND the Lesser evils.
And after that you became the ruler of hell. The Prince of Darkness.
After you will use the the book powers to invade Santuary,
and you will use the humans as recruits to your army.
After that you invade heaven city and destroy the army of angels.
With the magic of the angelstones you almost win, but
when you try to imprision god in one angelstone, you fail and are destroyed.
(good must win in the end :mean )
After the destruction of the price of darkness, one agent of the Prime Evils,
that was infiltrated in the Angel legion (Satanel, the fallen angel), steals the Necromicon and and releases the Prime Evils. Diablo and is brothers are free again, and from to the pits of hell they plan revenge, and Diablo IV starts.


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@darkmatter

Thanks.

I dont expect so many classes in Diablo III,
perhaps one classe that could be customized by
buying skill points could be better than tons
of classes. In any case i would like many options
and customization in Diablo III chars.

 

[Darkmatter]

Excellent ideas! I like a lot of the character names, as well as the storyline you made up! You know, we do have a sticky for these ideas specifically, however this is your thread and covers something much larger then just quest ideas or whatnot. Very nice read sir, I do love your ideas. Save the one about good/bad classes, balancibng those would be much too hard in my opinion. But, what do I know.

Keep it up! ^.^

 

[jandri]

Storyline small bits...

There is a rumor that Blizzard as hired Richard A. Knaak, http://www.sff.net/people/knaak/ , the famous fantasy story writer (Dragonlance Series) to write Diablo III story.

Richard A. Knaak as writen already some of the novels based in Diablo universe:

Diablo : Legacy of Blood http://www.blizzard.com/books/legacyofblood/

Diablo: The Kingdom of shadow http://www.blizzard.com/books/kingdomofshadow.shtml

Diablo: The Black Road (this one is writen by Mel Odom and not Knaak)
http://www.blizzard.com/books/blackroad.shtml

Diablo: Moon of the Spider (feature the necromancer Zayl)
http://phrozenkeep.it-point.com/forum/kb.php?mode=article&k=308

This article from Knaak, gives a hint that Blizzard is making D3 already:

"If asked by Blizzard, would you be interested in doing any writing for a third installment in the Diablo series? "

Since this is my third novel, I guess I am. If you're talking about a Diablo III, that would depend on what they want to do. I hope to continue the novels AND BLIZZARD SEEMS TO WANT THAT TOO.

This means that perhaps Blizzard and Knaak already talked about the possibility of him writing Diablo III storyline, and because he likes necros, its possible that the necromicon and Zayl the necro will have a big part in the storyline.

There are also some Diablo comics that hint some storyline for Diablo III:
http://pc59te.dte.uma.es/cdb/series/darkhorse/diablo.htm

About the Necromicon, that inspired my try for a storyline.

The necromicon is mentioned in HP Lovecraft writings, in the 20´s (1927),
75 years after its publication, its public domain now, not copyrighted, right ?
, so Blizzard can use it in is game storys, without paying author fees ?

History of the Necronomicon
"...Alhazred, a mad poet of Sanaá, ...visited the ruins of Babylon and the subterranean secrets of Memphis and spent ten years alone in the great southern desert of Arabia ... which is held to be inhabited by protective evil spirits and monsters of death. " ... continues here: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9879/nechist.htm

Also inspired the series: Evil Death.
photos of the book: http://www.he-man.org/forums/boards/printthread.php?t=114640

There is also a very interesting tale about necromancers and necromicon in this site: http://www.kopalnia.rpg.pl/mirror/adashiel/archive/necromancers.html

"According to legend, the Book of the Dead, the almighty Necromicon, was the most powerful Artifact to have been created. Mages of ancient Assyria had bound the Book of the Dead in a variety of skin, from undead to garou to demonic to human. They inked it in the blood of virgin mortals on parchment made of thinly sliced, yellowed skin. The Magick scribed into the Necromicon was some of the darkest ever known, enough to make even the Euthanatos or the Verbena to shiver in disgust. It is said that even the Mages who wrote the Necromicon had no idea what they were writing, but were being driven on by a "higher force". When done, the Necromicon was 666 pages long, each drying leaf of skin covered with diagrams and instructions on wielding the most deadly magick ever known."

In diablo III Casters, could have just one skill tree, and they could carry books with spells, the maximum of 2 books, each book coud support 12 pages with spells of the same scholl of magic, the books would have sockets like the items in d2, and the spell pages will fit in the sockets, they would work like runewords, giving powerfull spells to the books, the more powerfull spell pages would be as valuable as the rarest of the runes in Diablo II Lod.
And some spell pages combinations could give extra powers.

 

[Darkmatter]

I like those storyline ideas, and I also want more customization of the Diablo III Classes, not too much but a little more would be be neat in my opinion. The spellbook idea reminds me of a mix between Diablo and Diablo II's magical systems, and that would be really cool with me because you could fiocus on one element and get tons of spells for it if you had two books.

Keep the ideas coming!

 

[jandri]

Blizzard is going to make big modifications in Diablo II LOD...
they have been working in the game...

look at Blizzard page... http://www.battle.net/

A Call to Heroes! July 29, 2005
Great evil has returned to the world of Diablo 2.
Will you answer the call to save Sanctuary?
Patch 1.11 is coming....
(they have screenshots)

Theres a new evil... Lilith, the Princess of Hell, (act 6 ?) and Green Diablo (in Tristam ?).

patch 1.11 prelude to Diablo III ?

 

[jandri]

KEYS in Diablo III
-------------------

I like the keys ideas in 1.11 patch.

I think in D3, there should be special keys that are droped from monsters.
The should be chests that only are opened with a special key.

The golden key should appear broken in 2 parts, and you must
pay gold to fix it in a forge.

Golden Key -> open special treasure chests, those chest give always a unique
Rune key -> open treasure chests that give always a rune
Skeleton key -> open treasure chests that give always a spell page
Black Key -> open treasure chests that give always a rare item
Jeweled key -> open treasure chests that give always several jewels
Key of bone -> open a tresure chest that gives gems and skulls


ITEMS OF LEGEND
--------------------------
Also, the should appear broken items.
By example the mighty EXCALIBUR sword (legend item), could appear broken in 5 parts (like sets), and you must obtain all parts + special rock of metal alloy to fix the sword in a forge, to complete the sword.


METAL ALLOYS
----------------

Also the heros could find rocks of metal alloy and pay a NPC
to make base weapons with those metals (and socketing)

Metal alloys:

Gold -> item made of gold -> mf bonus (phase blade of gold for the mf char)
Silver -> bonus vs undead
Adamantium -> indestructible
Copper -> bonus to lightning powers
Iron -> +% to damage
Ebony -> +% to magic
Mithril -> % ehanced defense
Steel-> % to resist all
etc

Base weapons made with those metals, would have bonus for imbuing,
and for socketing runewords in them.


Casters in diablo III
-------------------

The Spellbook idea, gives a lot of customization.

The caster choose one element/school of magic power, that is permanent.
And they have a skill tree with all the 12 spells for this element/magic power.

And the can carry 2 books (at the same time) of any of the schools of magic/elements. They also can carry other books on stach.

By example:
My choice was: Female Sorcerer Lightning magic tree. God alignment.

The sorc as one skill tree with all 12 lighning spells.

And has some the following books on stach:

1- (no need for book of lightning magic)
2-Book of cold magic: 12 sockets, for 12 spell pages
3-Book of fire magic:
4-Book of the light magic
5-Book of dark magic
6-Book of blood magic
7-Book of rune magic
8-Book of energy magic
9-Book of prismatic magic
10-Book of the mind
11-Book of earth magic
12-Book of love spells
13-Book of wind magic
14-Book of hate spells
15-Book of water spells
16-Book of creation
17-Book of stone magic
18-Book of healing
19-Book of life
20-Book of Ice
21-Book of white magic
22-Book of auras
23-Book of destruction
24-Book of black magic
25-Tome of alchemy
26-Book of the devil worshipper
27-Book of darkness
28-Tome of shadows
29-Book of dark magic
30-Tome of purple magic
31-Book of green magic
32-Book of summoning
33-Tome of blue magic
34-Book of red magic
35-Book of Madness

The sorcerer can hold 2 books in inventory, giving she the equivalent of 3 skills tree.

Female Sorcerer Lightning magic tree + book of fire magic (with the 12 spell pages) + book of cold magic (with 12 spell pages), would give similar powers to old tri-elemental sorcs in diablo II.

But the if the sorc, change books in stach, now she can have:
Lighning powers + Book of life (healing powers) + Book of summoning
making she a completely different char.

In the lighning tree, there are 12 spells, with 110 points,
she could only max 5, and use 10 points on others.

Also casters should have:
Strenght, Dex, Vitality, Mana and Lore (points here give more power to casting spells from books)

Also a book with some special (symbolic) spell pages combinations, could have special powers just like runewords. Those books would be more valuable than a ZOD in a trade.


INFINITE MAGIC FIND AREAS
----------------------------

After ending the game several times, what counts is to collect items.
So special areas, like towers and mazes, with big magic find, are a good idea.

By example a maze, were you enter with a lot of monsters:
1st level of the maze would have +50% bonus to mf, and level 20 monsters.
2nd level 75% bonus to mf, and lvl 40 monsters.

After ending a lvl you can exit maze or continue.

The game will create infinite levels always with more mf and more powerfull monsters until is impossible to survive.

If you lose, you are back to the begining, and need maze key to enter again.


GUILDS
-----------------------------------------
Possibility to build guilds with youre friends,
make clans, and store items in guild castle.

 

[hondaowns]

Basicallly you guys are just making another Everquest Adventures hehe.....Fun Game dont play...Can't pay 24.00 a month haha

 

[Darkmatter]

It's more Diablo-ish then that, wouldn't you say? Blizzard would probably mold it to fit the Diablo World and how things have been with the past two games. Otherwise we'd have a really off and weird Diablo III.

 

[jandri]

I think in D3 should exist a special quest who give one personalized unique item, with random atributes, that item would have the potential to be better than the best runewords/uniques, but you can only complete that quest at level 90 or higher.

 

[dark-blade8000]

WHY ARE YOU ALL WASTING YOUR TIME DIABLO III IS NOT GOING TO BE INVENTED. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BUT IT'S TAKEN OVER BY GUILD WARS. SO THE DIABLO III PROJECT WAS CANCELLED PLUS THE TEAM THAT MADE DIABLO I AND II AND DIABLO II EXP LEFT BLIZZARD . SO DON'T GET YOUR HOPES UP CUZ ITS NOT BEING MADE . THERE END OF THREAD AND END OF THE WHOLE DIABLO III TOPIC.

 

[T.J. The Weird One]

WHY ARE YOU ALL WASTING YOUR TIME DIABLO III IS NOT GOING TO BE INVENTED. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BUT IT'S TAKEN OVER BY GUILD WARS. SO THE DIABLO III PROJECT WAS CANCELLED PLUS THE TEAM THAT MADE DIABLO I AND II AND DIABLO II EXP LEFT BLIZZARD . SO DON'T GET YOUR HOPES UP CUZ ITS NOT BEING MADE . THERE END OF THREAD AND END OF THE WHOLE DIABLO III TOPIC.

Why are you wasting your time...

A) Reviveing a dead thread
B) Flaming someone who hasn't logged in in 3 months
C) Writing a ****ing post in a dead thread
D) Stop being a dumbass Diablo 3 can be made and if Blizzard wants it to be made it will be...

The Thread was dead dumbass learn how to read then come back to the forums...

 

[Arkillo]

Please learn grammar, then return.

 

[diablo_lover]

why are u doing it so complicated jandri?