Yeah I agree with pan and sephiroth. The game may be good but it's definately not worth $180 a year. If it were $50 dollars less it would be worth it. The thing is, there are a lot of RPGs like this game, and they're shit load cheaper as well. Pan, maybe you should consider the fact that you have a differnt opinion on genres and different game types. The thing that pisses me off about this game is how Blizzard probably knew that the warcraft franchise targetted teenagers between 10-25? (Mostly younger people play from what I see on battle.net) Why the hell would they release a game for older people instead if this is true? And if you want an intelligent conversation, then talk to people in private chatrooms online or something. Intelligent conversation over a game of warcraft? r00fles. Personally I think the whole 12 year kids add more color to the internet. Although they do get annoying sometimes, yo ucan always squelch them if you dont want to hear them. Simple.