If God is good, why is the world so bad?

[Cobalt Wolf]

A man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his
beard trimmed. As the barber began to work, they began
to have a good conversation. They talked about so many
things and various subjects. When they eventually
touched on the subject of God, the barber said: 'I don't
believe that God exists.'

'Why do you say that?' asked the customer. 'Well, you
just have to go out in the street to realize that God
doesn't exist. Tell me, if God exists, would there be so
many sick people? Would there be abandoned children?

If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain.
I can't imagine a loving God who would allow all of these
things.' The customer thought for a moment, but didn't
respond because he didn't want to start an argument.
The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop.

Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the
street with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed
beard. He looked dirty and unkempt. The customer
turned back and entered the barber shop again and he
said to the barber:
'You know what? Barbers do not exist.'
'How can you say that?' asked the surprised barber.
'I am here, and I am a barber. And I just worked on you!'
'No!' the customer exclaimed. 'Barbers don't exist
because if they did, there would be no people with dirty
long hair and untrimmed beards, like that man outside.'

'Ah, but barbers DO exist! That's what happens when
people do not come to me.' 'Exactly!' affirmed the
customer. 'That's the point! God, too, DOES exist!
That's what happens when people do not go to Him
and don't look to Him for help. That's why there's
so much pain and suffering in the world.'

By the way, technically that circle is not flat because
it's non-existant. It's only an image. Only the screen
on your monitor is flat.​

 

[Metal Gear Flash]

A man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his
beard trimmed. As the barber began to work, they began
to have a good conversation. They talked about so many
things and various subjects. When they eventually
touched on the subject of God, the barber said: 'I don't
believe that God exists.'

'Why do you say that?' asked the customer. 'Well, you
just have to go out in the street to realize that God
doesn't exist. Tell me, if God exists, would there be so
many sick people? Would there be abandoned children?

If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain.
I can't imagine a loving God who would allow all of these
things.' The customer thought for a moment, but didn't
respond because he didn't want to start an argument.
The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop.

Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the
street with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed
beard. He looked dirty and unkempt. The customer
turned back and entered the barber shop again and he
said to the barber:
'You know what? Barbers do not exist.'
'How can you say that?' asked the surprised barber.
'I am here, and I am a barber. And I just worked on you!'
'No!' the customer exclaimed. 'Barbers don't exist
because if they did, there would be no people with dirty
long hair and untrimmed beards, like that man outside.'

'Ah, but barbers DO exist! That's what happens when
people do not come to me.' 'Exactly!' affirmed the
customer. 'That's the point! God, too, DOES exist!
That's what happens when people do not go to Him
and don't look to Him for help. That's why there's
so much pain and suffering in the world.'
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great post

 

[Cobalt Wolf]

Thank you. ​

 

[Coffindragger]

I don't neccasarily believe in God,


But I believe that Belief can change ones life

Personally I believe that believing in something such as "god" Is you being somewhat weak. Needing to depend on something That might be there

thats just me, So dont break my balls for it

I personally don't care either way, You can believe, I wont call you stupid for it, Just as long as you dont try to convert, or call me stupid

 

[Cobalt Wolf]

I like to think that people are rewarded for doing
good things even if just being a nice person.
That's part of why I believe in God.​

 

[Coffindragger]

Agreed


But i personally believe why does someone have to believe in god to do something nice?

 

[RyanXWing]

Agreed


But i personally believe why does someone have to believe in god to do something nice?

That sort of relates to how I think now.

To me the existence of god is irrelevant. I know I should be nice to people regardless of wether I will be rewarded or not.

Religions never made much sense to me.

 

[Coffindragger]

Thats just what i believe


But hey, What do I know?


haha

 

[Coffindragger]

I believe that God is a reason for people to be optimistic and cheerful about life. You know? Comfort in the Almighty and all that garbage.

Plus most people only pray to god when they're in need. Just like they only call Ace Pilots "aces" when they really need them. Ohhh, Ace Combat reference ftw?

reference ftl

But I agree with the top reference. Only when in need he is called upon


Ppl are so stupid:frusty:

 

[Renzokuken]

I can't believe i wrote that! I'm such an ass, haha.

People should try to be good anyways, even if they don't believe in God.

 

[RyanXWing]

I believe that God is a reason for people to be optimistic and cheerful about life. You know? Comfort in the Almighty and all that garbage.

Plus most people only pray to god when they're in need. Just like they only call Ace Pilots "aces" when they really need them. Ohhh, Ace Combat reference ftw?

Actually pilots are called aces when they score 5 kills.

 

[Coffindragger]

Actually pilots are called aces when they score 5 kills.

Its True


They were the vets Of wwII


Anyways off topic!

 

[Cobalt Wolf]

That's so true, RazgrizExMachina.
I've always wondered by people ask God for help but never thank him.
- They would thank anyone else who helped them, but not God.​

 

[Coffindragger]

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Truth

 

[MGCImtR]

That's so true, RazgrizExMachina.
I've always wondered by people ask God for help but never thank him.
- They would thank anyone else who helped them, but not God.​

I thank God for good fortunes. People start thinking about God or believing in Him when they are close to death or things that really depend on their chance rather than their decisions. That is when people rethink what really matters in life. But I believe in science and that whatever happens is a chance, based on conditions, timing and other factors. It's just randomness sometimes might be very ridiculous almost as if someone sets all up. So we say that God did or did not do that. Well, I believe in science but I have to believe in God as I do not have other explainations for the luck I have had.

Once I was told 'a scientist who believes in God is not a real scientist'. Sure, but there is nothing wrong in saying that there is a power, a chance or whatever that protected us in the past and to call that God as a power or something that does this and that.

 

[Uncle_Vanya]

Why do you people keep giving me opportunities for religion bashing?

In any case, good and bad are all relative, for some of us this world is great.

....THERE IS NO GOD!!!!!!!

 

[Renzokuken]

Why do you people keep giving me opportunities for religion bashing?

In any case, good and bad are all relative, for some of us this world is great.

....THERE IS NO GOD!!!!!!!

I was expecting a long-winded response. What happened to you, Vanya?

 

[Cobalt Wolf]

It really is pointless telling me there's no God.
Regardless of what anyone tells me I'm going to keep believing
because I have experienced God and seeing is believing.​

 

[AZN_FLEA]

cobalt wolf the phrase "seeing is believing" makes your belief seem shallow.

the only proof that the religious have that god, or some kind of god(s) exist. or something to have been made out of nothing it breaks the law of conservation on every single level. they argue that it is god who broke that law and the one who made the universe.

but how do you know that it is the christian god who is the real god? in the bible there are countless exterminations, wars and murders some of them initiated by the almighty himself. the most atrocious murders being commited by God himself. the so called "second murders" where the soul is sent to hell forever with no chance of redemption. We only commit a finite amount of sins on earth yet we must endure infinite pain should we choose to not believe in god. how can you translate that to justice? we are given freedom yet, in the end, it is just another tyranny. "do this or die". do we really have a choice? is eternal punishment for not living like how god told us to live really justified? we were born into this shithole where we are so entrenched in shit that we cannot survive without being "evil" to our so called brothers and sisters.

its like dropping a phone into a toilet full of shit and expecting it to come out clean. if god made an evil world how does he not expect us to be dirty? its not realistic to be the honorable, clean, honest ones because in the end they are always the losers. how did the christians become the most dominant in the world? with their holy god giving holy blessings and peaceful conversion? or was it the massive slave trading empires, greed driven sloths and total ruthlessness when dealing with the heathens. the christian religion is the most violent and cruel religion to ever exist yet you ignore the bad and make everything seem good.

God hides behind his holy lies, giving an illusion on how he is the only truth and justice, the only good but his legacy has only scarred the earth. maybe his intentions are good. maybe he gives words of wisdom and wants us to be properous but how are we faring? he only looks good on paper his real face is ugly and horrible. he is evil inside but because of the shield of holy lies you cannot see the evil and ignorance driving the religion. christians are blessed with cruelty and cursed with ignorance. a perfect combination because it lets them rape and pillage without denting their conscience. and you cannot hide from the fact that most christians only believe in god when it is convenient for them.

if on the very unlikely basis that god exists, it cannot be the christian god. it cannot be allah or jehovah. the real god must be a totally non biased, objective scientific god who broke the laws of conservation for a brief moment. god favoured the jews implying that all other races were secondary to the jews. every other god only created us to watch us fight each other and suffer. they enjoy our ruthlessness. they are sadists, bored teenagers watching the tv that is our world.

i sorry, but every conventional God cannot exist. science is more of a god than god is. science is there for us when we need it. when has god ever performed surgeries for us? superstitous rituals and medicine only hastened our death.

 

[CelestialBadger]

A man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his
beard trimmed. As the barber began to work, they began
to have a good conversation. They talked about so many
things and various subjects. When they eventually
touched on the subject of God, the barber said: 'I don't
believe that God exists.'

'Why do you say that?' asked the customer. 'Well, you
just have to go out in the street to realize that God
doesn't exist. Tell me, if God exists, would there be so
many sick people? Would there be abandoned children?

If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain.
I can't imagine a loving God who would allow all of these
things.' The customer thought for a moment, but didn't
respond because he didn't want to start an argument.
The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop.

Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the
street with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed
beard. He looked dirty and unkempt. The customer
turned back and entered the barber shop again and he
said to the barber:
'You know what? Barbers do not exist.'
'How can you say that?' asked the surprised barber.
'I am here, and I am a barber. And I just worked on you!'
'No!' the customer exclaimed. 'Barbers don't exist
because if they did, there would be no people with dirty
long hair and untrimmed beards, like that man outside.'

'Ah, but barbers DO exist! That's what happens when
people do not come to me.' 'Exactly!' affirmed the
customer. 'That's the point! God, too, DOES exist!
That's what happens when people do not go to Him
and don't look to Him for help. That's why there's
so much pain and suffering in the world.'

that's some real intellectually dishonest bullshit