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TrongaMonga

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You can't change everything that annoys you. Anyway, that actually is useless, but sometimes the creators of the threads like to know that his thread was made sometimes. Nonetheless, it could save space on the screen, yea.
 

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You put the thread up! what is this? I make suggestions and not only are they not considered but now they're bashed the instant I write them simply because it comes from me???
 

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If you think that is what it is, then think that. Because it isn't. I was just commenting that you don't need to make everything that annoy you to be changed. You didn't have to make that comment, that is. Do you really think it is because of you? Well, then it might be, if even you think that way. But I don't bash your opinions, firstly, and I wouldn't do it just because it was you the one who posted them. Assuming that is quite a big error. And, in case you didn't noticed, I halfly agreeded with you there.
 

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Rage, the problem isn't giving that sort of a merge a trial period... it's the fact that if all the threads in both sections were to be merged, that's pretty much undoable. You'd have to manually go through every thread and move them back to the correct forum if it was decided it was a bad idea.

New forums can always be merged and deleted. Mass moving threads is pretty much undoable.

"Well you could back up the forums before you merge anything"

But then every subsequent post made after the merge and backup would be lost. Yes, we experienced a 3 month roll back, but do we really need to have another, unnecissary one?

Views per thread and stuff like that are things I can't really edit myself not having ftp access to these forums. I personally like it so I can see if people are replying to my thread or whatever. Meh.
 
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Over the past few days I have gotten several questions about jed problems in my forum, but no one there can help. I already posted this once, but I feel I need to emphasize it. I know only d2jsp, and the person who helped me with the jed questions left after the rollback. L33t and Savage dont do anything, and I myself cant help. I dont know what to tell them. :(
 

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Well, for that, you can search on google for a tutorial, and post the link there. If I knew wtf you are talking about, I'd help you out.
 

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Originally posted by Silynt Rage
Can I suggest that we get rid of the number of views per thread?

does anyone really use it? and what is the difference in wether or not a thread is popular... why should you not enter a thread due to the fact that other people haven't? I like seeing how many posts there are in a thread, but I could care less about how many views...

that's just something that has annoyed me that I think should change...
I like the views per thread, it gives moderators a hint if it has been bumped. (ie: If there is 1000 views, and the other threads have around 200-300 views) So we immediately check it, i know we can thread bump now, but if it's off-topic, we can close it before any real harm comes to that thread.
 

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Originally posted by coRtALoS
Rage, the problem isn't giving that sort of a merge a trial period... it's the fact that if all the threads in both sections were to be merged, that's pretty much undoable. You'd have to manually go through every thread and move them back to the correct forum if it was decided it was a bad idea.

New forums can always be merged and deleted. Mass moving threads is pretty much undoable.

"Well you could back up the forums before you merge anything"

But then every subsequent post made after the merge and backup would be lost. Yes, we experienced a 3 month roll back, but do we really need to have another, unnecissary one?

Views per thread and stuff like that are things I can't really edit myself not having ftp access to these forums. I personally like it so I can see if people are replying to my thread or whatever. Meh.
The Admin has spoken so can we just please drop this subject?
 

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Originally posted by Renzokuken
I like the views per thread, it gives moderators a hint if it has been bumped. (ie: If there is 1000 views, and the other threads have around 200-300 views) So we immediately check it, i know we can thread bump now, but if it's off-topic, we can close it before any real harm comes to that thread.
Good point. Never thought of it that way myself.
 

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It helped quite alot throughout SC forums when a wave of 20 or so newbs joined up...that was a *wild* day.
 

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Originally posted by Maverick
The Admin has spoken so can we just please drop this subject?
sure... I Forgot that the admin is the end all to be all, because admins have never been proved wrong... ever... they're godlike.
 

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I really think we should change the asylum... get rid of it, merge it or something... it's to the point now where it has warped the thinking in all of your heads...

When I first came to battleforums the asylum was a place where you could say anything about anything. It was a place to post something that couldn't be talked about in other forums, obviously you couldn't go into chit chat and talk about your favorite porn star or how much you wanted to screw whatever forum member because you thought they were hot. It was a place where you could bring up issues about forum changes and not get flack from it...

A great example of this would be the thread I made regarding the PD clan... cort, you were there for that.... it was a place that you could bash people and not have to worry about a reprocussion, now it is the place TO bash people.

Members like shadow demon I don't think post anywheres other than the asylum, I thought maybe that the institution of removing a post count from that forum would help out a little... and it worked a little bit not like I had planned... but it was good enough, but for some reason after the rollback it wasn't re-instituted and now look where we are at... every other thread is bashing other people? I don't care if you want to flame someones post in the asylum, that's fine, but don't go and open a thread where anyone can just bash a certain person because their name is in the thread title... that's just wrong...

I Say if we're going to keep the asylum, that's fine, but you can't open a thread and leave it so anyone can just kick someone elses ass with words. It makes for a very lopsided degrading conversation that really for the most part serves no purpose other than to up a post count, and look who gets the flack the most in the asylum... the moderators of the other forums...


Does anyone yet see my reasoning for wanting to eliminate the Asylum?????
 

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Rage, just accept for the moment that the whole forums wont be turned inside out so you can be happy. Have some patience.
 

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It is true though, The Asylum is realy a waste of space, in which has no morals ethics or values. IS this how we want to represent Battleforums?
 

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No, this isn't just about me, I spoke with forged... Zaku and pan, they all hate the asylum as well... PM zaku about it, he's about to become a mod... it's been requested by swooper and myself... it's just up to cort to get him the permissions.
 

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I would have to agree the assylum needs to be deleted or moderated, like siylnt said the place used to be so much fun now it is just a place to flame, if you want to continuaslly flame do it on your on time, off of battleforums bandwith.
I think it would be beter if we gave it a mod and made it like it used to be.
 

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Well, if we get rid of the Asylum? Where will the flames go now? The Void? Chit-Chat? Well, when the flames end up there, you will be asking to get rid of that forum.
You do realise how big a risk this is. In fact, it secures a month of flame-torture for BF once it has been removed.

I like the way the void is, it's nice to test, some posts are funny, you can let loose without ANY flaming and have a good time. I don't want that ruined.

It's good that the flames are even tightly secured in this one little hell-hole, the Asylum, if we loosen our grip on the Asylum (merge or delete it), then the flames will run in every direction and infect every forum around it.

I know we can moderate harder and work better, sure, but there are still going to be pissed off people complaining about the deletion/merge and all the jerks who have infected our thread. I don't want that, no one wants that. Just leave the freaking Asylum where it is!
 

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well, hello...? this is where we crack down... it's just like any other change... it takes time to get adjusted... they aren't going to immediately stop flaming, but you ban a few people for like a week for flaming in threads... they'll get the picture... relatively quickly I would think.

And who says you have to hold the person to a week?
they could apologize, if they flame again, you can ban them again, if they constantly flame regardless, IP ban... that's all there is to it. It may seem a bit rutheless, but c'mon, no one likes to be flamed wether it's in the asylum or not, you've mentioned it about your PM's renzo... this is just cracking down on it. I'll admit it, I can put up with the flames in the asylum, but that's what I'm doing... PUTTING UP with it... that hardly means that I like being flamed.

let's put it this way... Nothing will ever eliminate flames... but doing that will certainly cut down on it, and like I said before, the asylum just breeds flames..
 

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Ok, this is going to sound like a desperate attempt for a rebuttle...

BattleForums just wouldn't be the same, it'd be like a strict school, no-talking, we all know how much that sucks. We wont have the extra bit of free speech we have enjoyed so much before we were moderators.

And i still think that a massive chain reaction will develop, all for worse.
 

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you are right renzo... it does sound like a desperate attempt, a bad one at that...

You are all for variety... why do we need that type of variety...? Couldn't the variety be extended elsewhere here's a positive one... that new Counterstrike forum...

We have the gaming forums and we have the entertainment zone, we have the everyday lounge... go talk to your friends in chit chat and then we have TALK SHIT ABOUT ANYONE YOU WANT! IF SOMEONE THINKS YOUR MOMMA SHITS GREEN INSTEAD OF BROWN! BITCH THEM OUT ABOUT IT HERE! (The asylum)

It just sticks out like a sore thumb to me. It's rediculous what little things get turned into huge arguements in there... and usually one person ends up disagreeing with another and then that person gets flamed and so on and so forth. Hence the statement "Breeding flames"

Before I didn't like the asylum because I saw no point to it. But in like recent days I've been really really the target of flames due to the l33t thing and closing theroys thread... and the way it has made me feel has been absolutely terrible.

If I was a newbie member and I said the slightest thing off color to another member in a thread and went to check out the asylum because I hadn't been there yet, it would either really hurt my feelings that I wasn't welcome at Battleforums OR it would just drive me to post something back to the asshole that said something to me, in which case battleforums has just been the mother of a brand new baby flamer, and you're the father renzo because you want to keep the place...
 
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