1.16 the way it should be

[Samsara]

Originally posted by Pan
Balance changes
Humans
-Water Element cooldown increased to 30 from 20.
-Brilliance Aura now grants .6%/1.25%/1.9% down from .75/1.5/2.25.
-Devotion Aura now adds 2/3.5/5 up from 1.5/3/4.5

Undead

-Death and Decay cooldown decreased to 125 seconds from 150 seconds.
-Death and Decay mana cost reduced to 175 mana from 250 mana.
-Death and Decay now deals damage of 5% of base HP/sec up from 4% of base HP/sec

Orc
-Stronghold now costs 210 wood to upgrade down from 190.
-Bat riders now have 450 hp down from 500
-Liquid fire now deals 5 dmg/sec on buildings down from 8 dmg/sec.
-Liquid now reduces repair rates by 50%.
-burrows hp decreased from 600 to 550
-Feral spirit costs 90 mana at all levels up from 75.
-Hex now costs 75 mana at all levels up from 70.
-Mirror image now costs 75/100/125 mana up from 125/125/125.
-Bladestorm mana now reduced to 200 from 250.

Night elf

-Entangle now lasts 10/20/30 seconds and deals 10/15/20 dmg per second.
-Mana burn now costs 25/50/75.
-Immolation now costs 40/30/20 +8/sec and deals 12/17/22 damage/sec and adds 1/2/3 armor.
-Avatar of Vengence now only summons corpses from NE units units.

neutral
-Doom now slows a unit by 50% until it dies dealing 100 damage per second but can be dispelled.

OMG I LYKE PIE!!1!!!11!

okay first off i do agree that having 3 lvl 3 water elementals is just plain hackworthy in terms of abuse, how bout just killing their armor by 2 or 3, that should solve that problem because i could say the same about having 12 treants, no?

haha I knew you would nerf brilliance somehow but lets add a .05% more to your change as we need our priests full of mana to be able to win.

Sounds like you lost a couple games to Orc recently huh pan? though i agree with your changes to everything but the batriders it seems kinda balanced in an orc-hating way.

Death and Decay is already imo the best aoe spell so in terms of sharing my human dual/aoe pain lets cap it and make it 200 mana to cast.

I really like the whole immolation change (lyke omg armor? kewl!) it would make the game more interesting and give NE the tank it needs early on.

I say doom is fine the way it is, if you dispel it, is that kind of fair considering it is a lvl 6 ultimate? its like dispelling infernal or phoenix.

 

[Emperor Pan I]

Re: Re: 1.16 the way it should be

Originally posted by Samsara
okay first off i do agree that having 3 lvl 3 water elementals is just plain hackworthy in terms of abuse, how bout just killing their armor by 2 or 3, that should solve that problem because i could say the same about having 12 treants, no?

haha I knew you would nerf brilliance somehow but lets add a .05% more to your change as we need our priests full of mana to be able to win.

Sounds like you lost a couple games to Orc recently huh pan? though i agree with your changes to everything but the batriders it seems kinda balanced in an orc-hating way.

Death and Decay is already imo the best aoe spell so in terms of sharing my human dual/aoe pain lets cap it and make it 200 mana to cast.

I really like the whole immolation change (lyke omg armor? kewl!) it would make the game more interesting and give NE the tank it needs early on.

I say doom is fine the way it is, if you dispel it, is that kind of fair considering it is a lvl 6 ultimate? its like dispelling infernal or phoenix.

yes, but treants are never used, and right now arn't abuse like entangle is. so we can leave it until i see real proof of how overpowered it is. Brilliance aura is the most overpowered aura along with unholy aura. brilliance needs a nerf to get human players less reliant on a caster hero as a first hero. Orc ahs pissed me off recently with the mass air that is so imbalanced. the batriders are flying tier 2 seige. how is it u can make units u can't repair? look at FW they dont make it so u cant repair a structure. D&d is shit compared to earthquake and tornado. in fact Tornado got a buff and is better now. earthquake does damage and slows units. omg what does D&D do? it jsut SLOWLY kills buildings and units. I dont say dispel the demon, jsut the effect that kills the unit beforehand. Also can't dispel ultimates? look at DK u can dispel his ultiamte, and his ultiamte IS SHIT compared to inefrnal

 

[x42bn6]

I think the Tower rush thing, the AI is designed to look for potential units to attack not buildings..... You can run a few enemy workers into each other in the start and sometimes nothing will happen.

Andrew, for the Spell Editor I'm SURE you can edit it, just look at maps like Judgement Day 14.4 or something. Once I find time to install FT and 1.15 I'll see what I can do.

 

[Theroy]

http://www.battle.net/forums/war3/t...neral&T=1287832&P=1&ReplyCount=28#post1287832

http://www.schroet.com/forums.php?forum_id=3&id=17477

 

[Emperor Pan I]

rofl, they thought it was real for a bit.\
~EDIT~

Ican't and really never could log into the bnet forum, so chould someone explain to the poor nieve people I was messing around?

 

[Theroy]

Every oen believed that it was the real patch till Bwittle came in and told them it wasn't

 

[x42bn6]

I smell a way to get more people onto the forums. *sniff*