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Old 05-29-2005, 02:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OverPowered things against Human...

OKay for all the human players, I would like to discuss some things that may be a little to powerful against human. Blademaster. Now maybe I'm just bad against harrasses, but I can't find a way to beat him. He goes and attacks my base, kills my tower and I bring my army over there. Then when my army arrives, he ww and then i go to creep or attack. Then this pattern repeats until the blademaster is level 4 or 5. I can't hit his base becasue it has a million towers. And then when the Blademaster gets level 6, he gets a potion of invulnerability and uses his ultimate and wipes out my whole army. I have no idea how to stop this. Any tips are appreciated.
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Old 05-29-2005, 04:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Probably strat section would help you out. http://www.battleforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=255

erm, this case is uniqe. first off if all he has is a BM, I don't see a major problem here. You want to get towers and research the upgrade that allows you to see invisible units. An arcane tower and some guarde towers etc. Then make morters and blast his base away as quick as possible.
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Old 05-29-2005, 04:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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yea, upgrade those towers to prevent windwalk harass, and I would just push into orc's base, nvm him, instead of him luring you to your base, gogo militias, and you lure him into his base.
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Old 05-29-2005, 07:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Sorry I didn't explain the situation well enough... He has an army, but he usually has them creeping and his hero harassing me. This is usually early game so i can't exactly go fight him with his grunts vs my footies. Late game however, he doesn't usually keep harassing and by then his hero is much higher level than mine because of the exp of my peons. I do get guard towers and arcane but it is still early game when this really hurts me so I'm only tier 1, so I can't get that upgrade.
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Old 05-29-2005, 07:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Sorry I didn't explain the situation well enough... He has an army, but he usually has them creeping and his hero harassing me. This is usually early game so i can't exactly go fight him with his grunts vs my footies. Late game however, he doesn't usually keep harassing and by then his hero is much higher level than mine because of the exp of my peons. I do get guard towers and arcane but it is still early game when this really hurts me so I'm only tier 1, so I can't get that upgrade.
I would go and creepjack those grunts if I were you, and keep making towers and militias in the base to drive off BM,
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Man, I am sorry but you shouldn't be complaining about imba with Bm vs Humans.

Just get a tower up early after first farm. Then block it up with farms or other structures. That way, the blademaster needs to go thru farms to get to it. However, it loses like 12 mana/hit from Arcane Tower.

You could use MK with Clap to help you fight the orcs. Orc don't like buffs, sometimes its best to take advantage of another race's weakness.
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Man, I am sorry but you shouldn't be complaining about imba with Bm vs Humans.

Just get a tower up early after first farm. Then block it up with farms or other structures. That way, the blademaster needs to go thru farms to get to it. However, it loses like 12 mana/hit from Arcane Tower.

You could use MK with Clap to help you fight the orcs. Orc don't like buffs, sometimes its best to take advantage of another race's weakness.
you mean, nerfs,

I gues MK wouldnt be bad, but I'd say bolt over clap, just for the late games
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Get arcane tower so he cannot harass you and WW away...I also suggest the Bolt+surround method with militia. The MK is HIGHLY effective against a BM. Just use that and get mortars and it should be a fairly quick game.
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get an arcane tower as soon as your 1st farm is done
train 5 footies
get a dust of appearance
surround, use dust, kill =)
then go slow + gryphons + dhakws = bai most of orcs, unless he's pretty good
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get an arcane tower as soon as your 1st farm is done
train 5 footies
get a dust of appearance
surround, use dust, kill =)
then go slow + gryphons + dhakws = bai most of orcs, unless he's pretty good
Hum shop doesn't have dust... Of course you could buy it at the goblin shop. And any smart orc would scout and build bats once they see your gryphon aviaries. Bats absolutely rape air, unless you have fiends... so change race.
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BM is not a problem against humans! MILITIA MILITIA....just turn the lumber peasants into militia if you dont have a tower up yet...MICRO THEM...he will get discouraged. and at the same time build an arcane tower next to them...it can easily be fixed while being upgraded!
Remember that peasants can fit through gaps that BM cant so make use of that.

I think NE is imbalanced against humans. And i think everyone knows that...
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Also, with Arcane towers its bye bye mana supply. Then at red life, you can throw a hammer and kill him before he runs. Easy 100 exp for yourself .
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