ne mirror

[[cataclysm]]

soo, i play maybe like 3 games a day...and i play ne...but everytime i have a mirror match im stuck with a problem...if it is a small map, i figure i cant tech, so i mass hunts ..but i always seem to lose that way...so the other way is to tech to bears/dryads, but when i use that strat...i always seem to get rushed...anyone know of a decent strat for ne mirror?
thanks

p.s. im not a noob: lvl 29 solo only

[Ntrik_]

mass hunts, with potm, then after 1 weap upg, make glaives (when you get about 6~8 hunts)

and micro well, you'll win =) thats how I win my ne mirrors

[Chris]

I AT with N_ and believe me it works. Massing Hunts will only have one weakness and its piercing damage. If you micro your hunts good enough, you shouldn't run into that situation. Archers can't really beat hunts early on without Long Bows upgrade. Later, you may want to get at least 2 Mgs and units that can support them and strike down air. Use Taunt like mad and focus fire with ranged on air or the t3 melee threatening your mgs. As for heroes: KOTG can help with rushes, POTM increases attack, Warden can be used for hero offense or unit offense, and DH depends on what kind of situation you will be in. All heroes move fast so they will match the speed of the hunts if you need to backup or micro.

[Ntrik_]

Heres optional step you could take:
-Make DH, hero rush to their base (kill wisps, and potm, you can kill their potm if they do make it)
-Fast tech, and I mean FAST
-Make 2 lores, and mass claws, upgrade them
-tech again for bears

only problem here would be thaty ou need some micro, Ive seen ppl do it, but meh I couldnt pull it off.

Also another option
-make KOTG (mass archer and creep)
-learn entangle and treants, and for 2nd hero, make Potm or warden, keep massing archers, and make claws in 2nd tier.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Ntrik_

Fast tech, and I mean FAST

Providing you have units to keep yourself from dying.

[[cataclysm]]

alright...thanks for the tips guys

[Theroy]

NE mirrors are lame tech to bears or mass hunt and glave.

[[cataclysm]]

yeah they are pretty lame...i see it while its loading, im not even motivated to play..haha

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Theroy

NE mirrors are lame tech to bears or mass hunt and glave.

And watch your ass fall at the hands of rushing and eventually chims.

[Samsara]

Hmm, instead of bears as theroy said, i would have tried Archer/hunts/glaives/Talons *shrug*

[Lizardbreath]

Mirror images with NE I almost always go Demonhunter and archers for the beggining. Not only does it help me to creep but it gives me a good hero and units to defend my base. Then I later go to dryads bears like you said. A lot of it is micro.

[Ntrik_]

potm hunts says you're dead if you go DH archers, I would agree if you go kotg and arhcers.. but DH... thats just.. no, you'd have very little % of beating the opponent thats massing huntsa nd glaives.

[Lizardbreath]

Thats if you even manage to make it too hunts. Early harass on your POTM with 4 archers and its gg to your base. A lot of it depends on micro. And your ability to defend properly.

[Ntrik_]

I can assume you're talking about plunderisle or two rivers then, because theres no possible way for you to make 4 arhcers and potm to rush in 4 player maps or bigger,

then again, I make Hunter's hall first to make fast huntress

still moonwells can help a person to defend

[Lizardbreath]

The worst is when you both go something like Dotts/dryads. The dotts are basically worthless and the dryads just dook it out. I have seen this happen before.

To not ignore your comment. I think ultimately it would be better with a kotg. Entangle+Ents is a good combo.

[Theroy]

Originally Posted by Hellwolf_36

And watch your ass fall at the hands of rushing and eventually chims.

I don't think I've ever lost because of chims when I do this strat... Potm tower rush by a player with micro or a few common error's only time I lose when doing it..

[rival.showtime]

ummm the solution is simple. DH+ archer at beginning, followed by naga sea witch (when possible) at tier 2. Then get quick bears with occasional dryads. Generally, the first person to bears, or who can micro rejuvination better usually winz.

I'm a lvl 43 in solo and this works ever time.

[Ntrik_]

Originally Posted by rival.showtime

ummm the solution is simple. DH+ archer at beginning, followed by naga sea witch (when possible) at tier 2. Then get quick bears with occasional dryads. Generally, the first person to bears, or who can micro rejuvination better usually winz.

I'm a lvl 43 in solo and this works ever time.

or a person who masses huntress and micros well winz :wavey

and you're not rival showtime.. lol nt

[Chris]

Originally Posted by NtRik_

potm hunts says you're dead if you go DH archers, I would agree if you go kotg and arhcers.. but DH... thats just.. no, you'd have very little % of beating the opponent thats massing huntsa nd glaives.

Unless the DH has Immolation, but even so he will lack the chance of beating glaive throwing huntresses. Other hunts or Grunts can easily stand up to them. Then you can carry piercing behind you to help defeat them. It can be harder on some races (undead and human) since thier melee is weak but fast attacking.

[Ntrik_]

Originally Posted by Hellwolf_36

Unless the DH has Immolation, but even so he will lack the chance of beating glaive throwing huntresses. Other hunts or Grunts can easily stand up to them. Then you can carry piercing behind you to help defeat them. It can be harder on some races (undead and human) since thier melee is weak but fast attacking.

if a person goes warden + hunts.. then DH's immo may not work as well, SS, micro hunts, not easy to do, but hey, it may work

I should try that next time for NE mirror