Orc Vs UD Help

[Mr.Underhill]

Hey guys, Im new to the forum.

Well, Me and my buddy play alot of warcraft and i know how to create units and other things. My buddy is always ud and he always goes fiends, have any advice ?

[AHappyChineseBoy]

this should be in the strategies section so I moved it.

You should specify what your problems are, the only problem I see most players have is microing and knowing what to counter. Maybe you telling us what race you play would help us out

welcome to the forum

[Ntrik_]

Originally Posted by AHappyChineseBoy

this should be in the strategies section so I moved it.

You should specify what your problems are, the only problem I see most players have is microing and knowing what to counter. Maybe you telling us what race you play would help us out

welcome to the forum

heh eglad to see you alive and kicking derz =)

and @threadmaker: dont get discouraged when you have more loss than wins, that's natural thing for most of us.. I mean cmon, you have to lose in order to win, you learn from your losses, not from your victories..

[Mr.Underhill]

Lol no worries

[Chris]

You need to tell us what you're units you are having problems with. Then we can help you . Like Necros are kicking my ass, or Frost Wyrms are blowing my Tauren to bits, or I am dying to Acolytes

[None293823]

I don't think Hu + UD is good for 2v2. But as in your case orc + UD is good. From some friends I know that the UD goes fiends DK and CL and the orc -grunts , shams FS and TC

[Chris]

I like to go more grunts then head hunters in teh beggining. Although fiends have 550 HP, the axes from the Grunts will hurt like hell if a lot of them get to the fiends. However, angle of attack may give you victory. Like attacking the fiends from behind or the side is different then attacking the ghouls in the front.

[LuNa[eP]]

hmmm
go bnet orc style =)
FS+TC mass grunts raiders shamans
enough to kill average UDs...
if playing good guys, they will probably go Cl + Dk mass fiends and you will just die.
and to beat em you'll need micro, fast expanding, harassing AND A NICE BASE BUILDING
all at the same time ^^

[Chris]

Lets see, destroyers > that (eat lust and use orb against raiders). Uped ghouls and aboms > that, wyrms >> that. Tri hero with most units > that. You need mixture buddy!

[LuNa[eP]]

LOL
no bloodlust against UD
shamans are for purge - lightining only on this strat
game cannot last that long

[Chris]

You can bloodlust, but don't be so stingy when you see a group of Destroyers coming. Cancel casting when you see them and start purging.

[D_E_A_T_H_4_U]

wat do destroyers do? they the statues right?

[Ntrik_]

Originally Posted by D_E_A_T_H_4_U

wat do destroyers do? they the statues right?

Statues can turn into destroyers, air units, and they do magic damage just like statues, but its a splash.

and they can devour magic, which means they can just eat unit's buffs or nerfs, and conver those into mana and health.

[SirYarrick]

Originally Posted by AHappyChineseBoy

this should be in the strategies section so I moved it.

You should specify what your problems are, the only problem I see most players have is microing and knowing what to counter. Maybe you telling us what race you play would help us out

welcome to the forum

my advice go tauren as they are melee to friends range and fiends r weak against melee and if u realy wanna boost ur tauren get some fully upgraded shams to bloodlust them makes awesome combo with tc or fs

hope it helps

[Chris]

How bout, get blasted by Destroyers, blasted by wyrms, crippled and slaughtered by necs. Plus that bloodlust would be used against you as 20 damage per hit is added to the Destroyer's attack.

Originally Posted by Ntrik_

Statues can turn into destroyers, air units, and they do magic damage just like statues, but its a splash.

and they can devour magic, which means they can just eat unit's buffs or nerfs, and conver those into mana and health.

As a bonus, the mana is turned against you as a spell called Orb of Annihilation, which does a bonus 20 damage and extra splash to other targets. The mana gets drained, but with constant buffs, you shouldn't really run into that situation. Most noobs today don't even bother eating the buffs, I have lost many games because a noob goes destroyers and doesnt use them properly.

[SirYarrick]

Originally Posted by Hellwolf_36

How bout, get blasted by Destroyers, blasted by wyrms, crippled and slaughtered by necs. Plus that bloodlust would be used against you as 20 damage per hit is added to the Destroyer's attack.



As a bonus, the mana is turned against you as a spell called Orb of Annihilation, which does a bonus 20 damage and extra splash to other targets. The mana gets drained, but with constant buffs, you shouldn't really run into that situation. Most noobs today don't even bother eating the buffs, I have lost many games because a noob goes destroyers and doesnt use them properly.

damn thanks didnt think about that thanks man ill have to revise my strat some more even though I obliterate before most undead playuers get that far im pretty fast to get shams and tauren fastest person I know in my clan(clan snk west realm)

[Chris]

Dont worry bout it, that is a good strat for RT though. Gives your allies the power and meat to keep thier forces alive with minimal losses.