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Old 10-03-2004, 07:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Firelord?

I found him even crappier then AM, how are they so useful?

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Old 10-03-2004, 08:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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im confused...you mean "him"???
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Old 10-04-2004, 02:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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i think the FL is overated like when they said hed be the next BM when the patch came out....hes got the summon thing thats it...although i have seen both the new heros in a w3cl tournament used by apm70 i think and he won. but still hes not overly and impressive hero.
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Old 10-04-2004, 03:07 AM   #4 (permalink)
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No, not at all, they say NE should go with Fire lord, for what? He sux, his summon is like WE, dispel owns them easily, woo big replication, they gotta hit 14 times, enemies FF on them whenver they see it, and incarnation or somethin? what does that do lol


Really, just original RoC heroes > new ones big time, Im an old school I guess.

what are your thoughts are these new heroes, fire lord definitely sux, too low life, as well as crappy spells except his ultimate.
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Old 10-04-2004, 05:17 AM   #5 (permalink)
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you know what would really own...Archmage + FL + beastmaster....lol an army of summons!!! it would probably be good agaist UD...if they arent going destroyers...tier 3...
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Old 10-04-2004, 05:44 AM   #6 (permalink)
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you know what would really own...Archmage + FL + beastmaster....lol an army of summons!!! it would probably be good agaist UD...if they arent going destroyers...tier 3...
Wisps/dispel/destroyer.
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Old 10-04-2004, 12:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
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FL i like his ult its pretty good
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Old 10-04-2004, 12:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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When 3 of them go undead and rush with firelord summon and mass ghouls you will be overwhelmed.
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Old 10-04-2004, 02:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
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AM is only for humans...maybe crypt fiend will work in his place...it will be pretty hard to dispell all those summons...although purge and dryads will do it easily...
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Old 10-04-2004, 02:13 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Firelord can get a lot of summons going at once, and volcano rocks. Inferno(I think that's what it's called, the consecutive hits causes increased damage one) is real good too. I've had lots of luck with him. My friend and I worked out a nice strat with Fire Lord/Alchemist.
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can you fill us in on that strat?
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Firelord sucks because it is only good against low HP units or nearly dead ones in order for incinerate to work properly. I'd prefer sticking to the classic heroes and using the original 5 tavern heroes.

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Firelord can get a lot of summons going at once, and volcano rocks. Inferno(I think that's what it's called, the consecutive hits causes increased damage one) is real good too. I've had lots of luck with him. My friend and I worked out a nice strat with Fire Lord/Alchemist.
Lots of summon? Please, everyone FF on the fire summon when firelord summons them, it'd be wasting like 150 mana for fun.
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Plus the lava spawn needs to successfully attack 12 targets before it can split into two lava spawns. You may need to micro them to keep them alive till then. Some people when creeping often get cocky doing so!
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since im a custom game player, i just like his appearance
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The FL is very good hero for harassing. But I don't find him that useful when you get dispell. Incinerate is very useful but the lava spawns can be dispelled. However, he really doesn't make you win.
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The firelord is pretty good for solo but not so well in team games. In solo Soul Burn can disable your hero pretty well at lvl 3, found that out when my bm couldn't ww away from the chims he was fighting. Volcano is quite powerful vs an army and a base. I think he's best with a teching NE.
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Yeah cause Night elf basic units have low hit points (except huntress that has 600 HP, but Unarmored so Lava Spawn can kill it).
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He's good in 3v3. In solo he's not a bad second hero his passive is the best in the game.
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3v3 sucks thats it ! In 2v2 he is imbalanced with any ally but I prefer not to choose him. Even in 1v1 he is good once the spawns become 4 or more... I hate him
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