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Old 09-24-2004, 03:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The New heroes...?

What do all of you people think about the three new(well,sorta)neutrals(the two goblins and the FL)?Personally, i kinda like the FL, but i think the tinker sucks for everything except a superharass. I tried him out, and confirmed my suspicions(sp,whatever)that he kinda sucks as a primary hero except in that sitiuations.Any opinions?
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Old 09-24-2004, 03:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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No idea, I only use DH and Kotg in my games. Rarely do I use neutral heros.
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Old 09-24-2004, 03:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The FL is still overpowered..
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Old 09-24-2004, 04:09 AM   #4 (permalink)
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All the new ones are generally overpowered when they first are released and after beta they suck, so just use racial heros....that solves everything.
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Old 09-24-2004, 04:17 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Naga still remains the best neutral hero.
The firelord and the alchemist just doesnt cut it.
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Old 09-24-2004, 05:54 AM   #6 (permalink)
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i mainly use Arch mage, pitfiend, and pally. i dont see how DL would fit into my strat(same for goblin)

(my strat is to use the arch mage to get to lvl 6 fast and portal around. pit fiend has his uses, terror...to me...is VERY useful when combined with pally's aura. add defence to ur units while at the same time taking away attack...it helps!)
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Old 09-24-2004, 06:19 AM   #7 (permalink)
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when i played my first game on 1.17, i beat 2 guys at the same motha ****in place at the same motha ****in time! and all thanks to my FL and my human skills. well- yeah.
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Old 09-24-2004, 06:42 AM   #8 (permalink)
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4 v 4 doesnt make too much of a differance...were talking about mainly 1v1 games
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Old 09-24-2004, 01:34 PM   #9 (permalink)
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my fav neutral hero is the Dark Ranger and I tend to use her as a secondary hero after a primary racial hero (e.g., Farseer, DK, AM or DH). Tried the FL a bit, that volcano looks good, but reckon its just a glorified earthquake.
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The FL is still overpowered..
No, hes not stop complaining.
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Old 09-24-2004, 04:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Still use AM MK/or beast master.

FL is really overpowered, lol
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Old 09-24-2004, 10:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
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FL isn't that great...I take him out easily with an AM and a few long rifle gunmen, or with MK and some foots. His spells own, but hes pretty easy to kill-like a mage should be.
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Naga still remains the best neutral hero.
The firelord and the alchemist just doesnt cut it.
OMG NAGA ABUSE!!!!!

I remember those days, then they "fixed" her more closer to balanced. But she still is rediculous at times.
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Old 09-25-2004, 04:42 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Have u seen the alchemist with UF and it's spell. thing attacks like a beast!

Also, I have gotten to like the fact that the FL gives me a good summon to creep with as ud, otherwise i would be forced to use the fat-slow assed CL for those crummy beetles.
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OMG NAGA ABUSE!!!!!

I remember those days, then they "fixed" her more closer to balanced. But she still is rediculous at times.
The funny thing is naga abuse was the same time as the beastmaster abuse. Thoes two hero's together = GG. The beastmaster was abusable for 1.10 1.11 1.12 took so long for people to find out..
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FL isn't that great...I take him out easily with an AM and a few long rifle gunmen, or with MK and some foots. His spells own, but hes pretty easy to kill-like a mage should be.
I think you're right, if you dispell his spawns, he has no useful spells. Volcano can be stoped if you stun him.
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Also, I have gotten to like the fact that the FL gives me a good summon to creep with as ud, otherwise i would be forced to use the fat-slow assed CL for those crummy beetles.
Pan speaks truth! Beetlez sux....

I only like using them in combonation with necros really. Someone used it against me once and I got flattened... ^^
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Old 09-25-2004, 07:03 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Alchemists armor lowering AOE dealy and a corruption orb is pretty cool. He can also heal your enemies!
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Flamelord wins the coolness contest, but I think in the long run it will be seen that alchemist is a better hero. Has enough mana to cast 2 spells, plenty of life, good damage.. only thing holding him back is his pitiful armor/agility, which can sometimes be fixed by good item drops
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orb of lightning+alchemist=geegee hero
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