imbalance issues

[hYbr1d.]

its rather stupid to talk about imbalances because if u look at the top players most of them dont play as ud... also its more about skill, creeping and knowing wat units to get when u scout...

[NeverGoingBack]

I find it rather stupid that mentioning a certain race and imbalance are synonamous now a days, and people still deny thiers a problem.

Lets face it if you were to put the letters NE where you put UD and people would be happy to argue with you.

[IceDevil9]

Originally posted by hYbr1d.
its rather stupid to talk about imbalances because if u look at the top players most of them dont play as ud...

Contradictions abound. :o

-Frank :cool:

[K0Bi]

correct me if im wrong but, arent UD are the worse creepers? :/
i mean,
human race - got AM and some footmen and you can go for mid lvl creeps
orcs - got some grunts and FS and you can go for mid lvl creeps
Night elves - got some huntress and Warden/DH and you can go for mid lvl creeps..

with UD you can go ghouls or fiends, the thing is with ghouls that although i get em fast they die like bugs against mid lvl creeps..
dunno mabye im hell wrong im newbie but it does bother me in UD...

[NeverGoingBack]

get rods of necromancy, micro, and cannabalize. you shouldnt have any problems losing your ghouls along with coil.

upgraded abominations are nearly invincable when cannablizing.

[hYbr1d.]

u think theres an imbalance with ne? ive never heard that b4... its always ud this ud that

icedevil wat do u mean contradictions abound... look at the top 20 solo players there are 3 undead... the majority are ne and orc... if anything the best players seem to use ne

and KOBi u can creep fast with cl and beetles very easily

[Beer $lut]

Originally posted by K0Bi
correct me if im wrong but, arent UD are the worse creepers? :/
i mean,
human race - got AM and some footmen and you can go for mid lvl creeps
orcs - got some grunts and FS and you can go for mid lvl creeps
Night elves - got some huntress and Warden/DH and you can go for mid lvl creeps..

with UD you can go ghouls or fiends, the thing is with ghouls that although i get em fast they die like bugs against mid lvl creeps..
dunno mabye im hell wrong im newbie but it does bother me in UD...

All races are equivalent when creeping.

[IceDevil9]

Originally posted by hYbr1d.


icedevil wat do u mean contradictions abound...

Well, the opening sentence of your topic was:

it's rather stupid to talk about imbalance issues

Then, on your next sentence you state:

Because if oyu look at all the top players none of them play Ud

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you just talked about imbalance issues and how you think Ud is imbalanced, hwne you clearly stated as your first sentence that it's stupid to talk about imbalance issues on the whole.

Pwned by English.

-Frank :cool:

[Emperor Pan I]

I think hes trying ot make the point that everyone says undead is imbalanced, and that alot of high levels dont even play ud, so therefore it cant really be imbalanced and for all the noobelves to shut up.

Or that is how I see it

[IceDevil9]

Well w/e I was just confgused because he doesn't know how to speak English.

-Frank :cool:

[Theroy]

Uhm hunts are tier 1 1/2 that's why NE always harass thank god blizzard gave them hero's that were good at it or they would lose. Undead is probably the best at creeping early to late game. NightElf would be one of the worst only race that can't summon things to take damage for them and have to run back to there wells after every ****ing creep it's annoying.

[hYbr1d.]

lol buddy i got into UofT for english.... anyway if u had a little more insight and actually contributed to the topic instead of trying to put ppls english down (even tho its a FORUM and noone is all that conscious of their grammar...) u might understand i was saying that its stupid to say one race is better than the other... i dont know wat foreign country u come from but everyone else understood wat i was saying... thx pan =D

~oh and btw mr. im so damn good at english the correct spelling is confused not confgused.... so why dont u try correcting ur own stuff b4 talking nonsense to me

[Ntrik_]

Originally posted by hYbr1d.
lol buddy i got into UofT for english.... anyway if u had a little more insight and actually contributed to the topic instead of trying to put ppls english down (even tho its a FORUM and noone is all that conscious of their grammar...) u might understand i was saying that its stupid to say one race is better than the other... i dont know wat foreign country u come from but everyone else understood wat i was saying... thx pan =D

~oh and btw mr. im so damn good at english the correct spelling is confused not confgused.... so why dont u try correcting ur own stuff b4 talking nonsense to me

UofT is easy to get in, they want 1000 ppl in first year, and htey drop 80% of it in 2nd year, GG (well thats what I heard from a friend, but he got in in his 2nd year)

Well yea, I dont know what the gibberish about UD being imba... its all on micro and shit,

but it was bit of imbalanced when destroyers had the bug --;

[hYbr1d.]

UofT to get in u need at least 80%avg.... im second year now switched into comp sci
its alot harder to get into than york, ryerson etc....

[Ntrik_]

indeed, but its not hard to get over 80% avg, 93% avg is hard.

[None293823]

It's true because you see how on almost every replay UD owns human and you think 'thats it no way to own UD but if you think of what to use to counter those aboms and like Pan said in one of his replays to a Hum owned by destroyers, to use tanks, you can realise there isnt something so imbalanced.

[hYbr1d.]

thats wat im saying mage... if u scout ahead of time and find out what they are going get something to counter it dont just rush in battle blindly get owned and then oh its cause its imbalanced... ud has its weaknesses just like any other race

btw N_ depends wat u want to do at UofT. engineering is 96% to get in. i played way too much diablo 2 in high school lol i ended up with a 85avg

and pan do u know if ensnare and/or web can be devoured by destroyers? i havent been in a match where that would help me yet but im just wondering

[Ntrik_]

btw N_ depends wat u want to do at UofT. engineering is 96% to get in. i played way too much diablo 2 in high school lol i ended up with a 85avg

I thoguth it was like that for commerce part.. lol but Im still a nubby, your the one in UofT, too bad you played too much diablo tho...

I think ensare/web can, they cant be abolished by dyrads I think: --> therefore they arent magic/spells?

[hYbr1d.]

yah commerce u need around 90%
and.. damn diablo... id prolly have gone to waterloo for comp sci
=( meh undergrad means nothing these days anyway

[Emperor Pan I]

u cannot devour ensnare or web, because they are physical spells. that means they can be cast on magic immune units, and cannot be dispelled