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07-11-2004, 11:21 AM
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| Rifle/Sorc/Breaker/Priest? Maybe? Recently, I've been trying a new strategey a friend suggested to me and I'd thought I'd share it with anyone who cares to check. The basic idea is to start out you normally would and eventually end up with 1 Barracks, 2 Arcane Sanctums and prefferably an AM for a hero. Your main force would consist of a bulk of rifles with a handful of breakers and sorceresses with the addition of priests. Reply and tell me an error or an improvement or whatever you'd like to tell me. Thanks.
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07-11-2004, 11:32 AM
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| If it is Hum vs Hum and the other human also has breakers, sorceresses arent recommeneded. Also you should get a MK or neutral hero as second.Rifles with 'long rifles' and upgrade them instead of melee attack. Without knights it works fine if the other also doesnt have mass knights and something else.
vs orc it would own
vs NE, ownage
vs UD possible but with their impale+ nova+ coil Im not very sure |
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07-11-2004, 08:31 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New york Age: 22 Posts: 3,917
| So that is considered rifles+casters correct? I think it is too mixed for my blodd considering I hae very poor micro  .
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07-11-2004, 10:42 PM
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| If you're going to dual barracks and arcane sactuary expand early. So you can have enough gold. I would suggest creeping out a gold mine with an archmage (water elemental), 2-4 footmen and some miltia. I would have a back up plan though, because some heavey melee could take you out, so maybe polymorph, or stuff like that.
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07-12-2004, 12:05 AM
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| i never end up getting dual barracks, its not special i just pump out rifles asap and keep getting a mix of sorcs/priests/and breakers im wondering if its a good idea to upgrade the breakers to whatever so they control summoned or is it a waste?
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07-12-2004, 12:23 AM
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| It is definatley work it if you have good micro too control the lot of the group.
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07-12-2004, 08:03 AM
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| to micro for this you would have breakers in front then a layer of priests and sorcs and then rifles and AM right?
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07-12-2004, 11:57 AM
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| Yes, I almost never have 2 barracks, sometimes at tier 3 to get 2 knights once I have expand, and rarely 2 Sanctums. With combination of all casters it is fine. But vs another Human who makes this i would just use AOE spell on priests,sorc and mass rifles. AOE can eliminate casters but Ive lost from rifles. Even if you have blizzard it's not good to rely on footmen that you have from tier1. You need knights or better dont fight unless you have stable melee. |
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07-12-2004, 11:56 PM
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| well i guess its mandatory to get melee in solo but im a team player and my allies always get some melee so i can focus on other things
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07-13-2004, 07:08 AM
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| Breakers are ranged melee like Hunts that have like 200 range or something. Either way Breakers are crappy for meat. If you get more then 3 breakers then you're stupid. Get knights. |
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07-13-2004, 12:16 PM
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| Breakers are ranged but that is right. Make 3 breakers and quickly tech to knights. If the other human uses AM and BM and bliz+ flame you can make like 6-7 breakers with priests only in this case. |
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07-13-2004, 02:53 PM
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| so your saying something like AM, 3 breakers, ? knights, ?sorcs, ?priests?
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07-13-2004, 10:19 PM
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| It all depends on races. This is good for human without the sorc |
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07-14-2004, 04:23 AM
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| well give me a good strat vers every race please,y our the master
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07-14-2004, 03:43 PM
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| The best I can give you in details is here Frozen Throne Human Strategy
I grouped them according to race you play or game type so there are solo FFA, team solo vs UD,orc,Ne, Hum |
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07-17-2004, 11:04 PM
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| For a FFA strat what about rifles knights mortars and gryphs?
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08-02-2004, 10:42 AM
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| I dunno, but that sounds like it could get really expensive
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08-06-2004, 10:45 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by SpelL_BreakeR For a FFA strat what about rifles knights mortars and gryphs? | tanks, knights, casters, hawks/griff is the strongest strat for ffa for a reason
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08-06-2004, 11:33 PM
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| Always try to mix in Mortars vs. NE, otherwise you could have some trouble taking out some of the units, despite the Rifleman's piercing damage.
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08-07-2004, 04:38 AM
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| Well, I've tried this strat out a couple times and I've discovered this:
Vs. NE: Works pretty good, until the hunts + Hips waste you.
Vs. Humans: Take out the sorc. and it works wonders
Vs. UD: Works very well
It also depends very eavily on your micro and since I'm a bit new to melee, and my micro is decent, I'm probably not working this strat to its full effectiveness. All things come with practice however.
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