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09-25-2003, 07:57 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 20
|  HELP ME!! Orc vs UD
i've never won insane undead before in custom:o .
the worst part?? i'm preparing for a major one on one battle this weekend with my friend who is good in undead!:fencing
anyone that can reccomend me a good strat? probably a good build order too? just to compare with my current.
wat units and spell to counter? etc. thank you so so much!! | 
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09-25-2003, 08:07 AM
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| Have you ever won a game vs insane at all?
Well use shamans and batriders,if your friend uses necromancers better dont use many ground.But even the air are not good-they can be easily owned by obsidians,gargs,wyrms.Use bloodlust for whatever strat you choose.
You can attach your replay later I want to see if your friend is better UD than my friend.I doubt. | |
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09-25-2003, 02:25 PM
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| I would suggest using wind riders and bloodlust. It pretty much owned me several times. | |
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09-25-2003, 07:54 PM
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| insanes r cheap, if you notice they get 20 gold and only 10 is subtracted from the mine, it is very hard to beat one, considering they get double resources
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09-26-2003, 03:58 AM
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| raider rush the guy and destroy his hall of dead and acyoles, then he ****ed.
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09-26-2003, 06:51 AM
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| Raider rushes are gay. I hate when ppl do that sh1t lol. For UD, grunts, farseer, tauren chieftan, and witch docs should take care of what you need. I'd reccommend a few on the Tauren casters for their dispel since most UD get Necroz or Banshees.
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09-26-2003, 08:22 AM
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| Aya Matsuura is awesome
Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Trieste, Friuli-Venezia Giulia Age: 20 Posts: 15,281
| Raiders ARE quite good against Undead. Bring along some Wyvs and Shams (to take out Gargs) and maybe a few Kodos/Tauren to Devour/attack the Aboms.
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09-26-2003, 02:25 PM
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| I can't really argue with your guys strats since I don't even play Orc...lol. They seem good, I still like the wyverns tactics. Piercing air units are crazy good since they have bonus against other air units. | |
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09-26-2003, 10:54 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by Siphon
Raider rushes are gay. I hate when ppl do that sh1t lol. For UD, grunts, farseer, tauren chieftan, and witch docs should take care of what you need. I'd reccommend a few on the Tauren casters for their dispel since most UD get Necroz or Banshees. | that why he get ****ed up as undead,my strat is the best rush.
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09-27-2003, 10:54 PM
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| get tc with shockwave and make air+ caster u want. shaman good for fiend with lg shield and docs for stun/heal
micro is the way to victory
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09-28-2003, 03:12 AM
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| Yeah TC with war stomp is best for against undead. once i got ghoul/death knight rushed when i had 1 grunt and my TC.. i let them surround me, i loaded burrows and threw in a warstomp.. wiped out every ghoul, plus almost killed his death knight (but he wasted his town portal so it cool)
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09-29-2003, 03:52 AM
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| Raider vs undead
Win = Lose
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09-29-2003, 08:07 AM
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| raider vs undead. so what do i aim for when i attack their base?? purely buildings? or do i crush their enemy off first? what othe unit i bring along besides raiders? shaman..with doctor...wyverns..and?
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10-04-2003, 03:16 PM
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| thats too many units you can never get effective numbers of shams, witch, wyvs and raiders.. stick to 2 units MAYBE 3
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10-04-2003, 07:22 PM
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| yes raiders wyvern and shaman are great...make sure you have bloodlust, the raiders can take out the buildings and the wyvern can take out the units, a wyvern with lust attacks with a very fast speed and a greater attack... it may be wise to take a kodo just for the war drums | 
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10-06-2003, 09:49 AM
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| Aya Matsuura is awesome
Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Trieste, Friuli-Venezia Giulia Age: 20 Posts: 15,281
| AndtoDevour some Abom s***, Raider killers.
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10-07-2003, 03:26 AM
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| or just go grunt power
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10-14-2003, 12:13 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Earth, Australia, Victoria, Melbourne, House, Bed, Blanket! Age: 17 Posts: 62
| ....U guys r soooo LAME!!!
Ok I'll Gib u A Tip ok!
1st Go Grunts den get some Wyverns n Kodo Beasts n a Batrider!
its lyk this
7-10 grunts
3-5 Wyverns
2-3 Kodo Beasts
1-2 Batrider
Finally U get Taurens n Catapults!!
4-5Taurens
1-2 Catapults!! Den u own!!!!
TAurens n Catapults KIK Undead Shit Easy! Speicailly Towers!
If they got Froties den u got Wyverns n Batrider!!
Batrider 900 dmg!
Xplosion dingy to air units!!
if they go Spiders den obviously u;ve got Kodo n Taurens!!
Oh And Add 3-4 Shaamens !!
Attack Rate Is Increased bai hEaps!!
I never lost wit Tat Strategy!!
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10-15-2003, 12:24 AM
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| You need to work on making your posts a little more friendly?
We are not "lame". You can't flame here anyways.
Also, don't use all the abreviations...they make people look stupid. Same with people that type in all caps... | |
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10-15-2003, 02:34 AM
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| 1. If you only have 4-5 tauren fiends will own you any day.
2. Don't build wyvs undead have too good aa with gargs and fiends.
3. Basically orcs are the best late game, but undead are way better later. So you have to rush him with a ton of grunts early on and kill him then and there.
4. Bat riders are gay, even there explosion skill cant kill nething cuz they only have 500 hp and barely ne armor so they get killed b4 they get next to their targets if your enemy can micro at all.
5. I doubt that you've (xinevitablex) NEVER lost with that strat (gimme your account name and i'll check it)
6. Mass fiends will own any strat you guys have mentioned
7. Shamans die in like 5 hits by a fiend
8. Use healing salves!!! They OWN
9. If you want to beat undead RUSH. 
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