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[Nub]

This is what it looks like when a former hum player comes back from a 8 month break and plays orc. I'm the orc on with the hum ally.

I'm curious as to what I should do to improve my build order. I wasn't even trying to micro after the first 5 or 6 minutes which is quite obvious. I didn't even make control groups in this match.

[Chris]

I am badass with orc, I can probably help you with that.

I usually do Grubby's order, which is pretty efficient.

• 4 Peon on Gold, 1 builds altar.
• Build 2 peons at Great Hall, first one done builds Burrow.
• Fill the mine, then at 180 gold make barracks, send peons that finish burrow and altar on wood.
• Get hero at altar, one grunt from Barracks, build 2nd burrow if you can
  (Along the way getting peons of course)
• At 180 Wood, tech to stronghold, then get a War mill and Voodoo Lounge while constructing.

You should probably have 5-8 peons on wood by this point. Its a good tech order.
Afterwards, you do as you please. But you should try to harass and/or pin enemy down with offense.
Orc is a race that needs to get the better units before they do.

[Nub]

So basically keep doing what I've been doing.

I've been working on a DR ghoul rush with UD. I use the BO of

2 acos to mine
Que 2 acos
1 aco summons zig then crypt then sent to mine
Que another aco
5th aco summons altar
que up 2 ghouls
Summon zig
Summon shop
When altar is almost finished I send a ghouls to get the DR

After that I start making a bunch of ghouls so my tech is late.

Do you know of one that would be better?

[Chris]

You are in luck, I may still have some viewable replays when I Ated with Panitude. He did panda/lich and ghouls while I was support with grunts and raiders and other things.

[sixam]

Argh for me orcs is THE WORST RACE.....I Always lose with orcs.....UD then NE yes they rock considering that hey have the same mining style...

[Nub]

I found a replay with a tavern build.

http://www.wcreplays.com/pub_replays.php?get=47519
If anyone else is interested.

[Chris]

A tavern run is really just cutting out the wait for a hero by getting an instant one when the time comes. But most of them aren't as effective as one thinks, especially a problem in team games where the Tavern is too far away from a player (Sunken Temple)