Bat Harassment

[zx9r]

I have been finding this to be successful in team games, mainly 4v4, where I harass with BM and tech to bats. Let me know what you think.

5 peons - gold
que 2 more
1 peon build altar
2 peon build burrow
que a few more for wood
1 peon build voodoo lounge
take burrow peon and build warmill
1-2 towers to hold off rush
tech

When BM is born, send him to shop and pick up some salves and 2 clarity pots. Then go harass. 9 times out of 10, the opponnents wont get dust or anything, so you can just murder workers. The key here is to keep the enemy in or near their base, so they do not hit you while teching. After T1, i usually go dual beastieary and then tech to T3, because with no units/barracks, you should have plenty of resources to upgrade and build your bats. I usually build a full group of bats while upgrading defense/attack on the way to T3. As soon as T3 hits, upgrade Liquid Fire (it is a MUST... makes bats sexy!) If you have done a good enough job at harassing your opponnent(s), they should not have any heavy air (no workers = no tech) and you can feel free to send your batties in for a kill. Target the town hall first. Dead hall = no gold = no more units = usually GG.

I did this last night in a game where 1 of my allies was a tower rusher, it was an extremely fun game to play, I kept bombing expos and town halls, and the enemies finally got pissed when they saw human towers creeping towards their bases, and bats dropping fire everywhere else. :dance

Any suggestions on ways to tweak this strat? And dont flame me, I know if i get rushed by more than a few units, this wont work. But hey, I play RT, and ppl are pretty stupid there, so strats like this are feasable. I will try to post a replay tonight, its a riot...

[Chris]

Originally Posted by zx9r

I have been finding this to be successful in team games, mainly 4v4, where I harass with BM and tech to bats. Let me know what you think.

5 peons - gold
que 2 more
1 peon build altar
2 peon build burrow
que a few more for wood
1 peon build voodoo lounge
take burrow peon and build warmill
1-2 towers to hold off rush
tech

Empthasis on the bold big letters. 4 on 4 is so full of idiots that you can practically do anything and still win, as long as you don't have morons on your team. Besides, one game on 2on2 AT revolved around Batrider harass. But wait, he bombs my allies base (who wasnt that good). Then I fortified my whole main with towers, those bats got shot down before they could do anything.

during thier feeble attempts at stopping me. Me and my friend destroyed one of thier bases. And we pinned the other scrub at his base. He started to tower and I shot off his peons with Demos. If he sent anything, raiders snared and my units killed them. He ended up having to surrender.

[zx9r]

yeah, you are correct, this wouldnt work 1v1 or probably not even 2v2, because of the lack of units for the first 10 mins of the game can easily get u GG'ed. But when you have a bunch of RT nubs, its a riot to watch them panic when their base is getting liquid fire'd, only to have them TP in with a DH and mass hunts. Good luck hitting my bats with hunts, nubbers... and thats exactly what happened in the game i described above. I harassed the hell out of the NE, and instead of simply buying dust and maybe building a few protectors, he did didly squat about my BM continuously hitting his wisps... I took turns between him and the orc player beneath him, keeping 2 out of the 4 opponents on lock-down in or around their bases, constantly losing workers. Then i show up with a flock of bats, and they attempt to counter with hunts. Soooo the NE base got wtfpwned real quick, and the orc lost his hall and a few burrows, then the towers came flooding in, all in all a riot to play, gotta find the guy who was towering with me, he was one of the best ive seen in a RT game when it came to towering, he even fed us resources to keep our units stocked.:grunt

[Chris]

Originally Posted by zx9r

But when you have a bunch of RT nubs, its a riot to watch them panic when their base is getting liquid fire'd, only to have them TP in with a DH and mass hunts. Good luck hitting my bats with hunts, nubbers... and thats exactly what happened in the game i described above.

But I do agree with you on the whole 4on4 thing . Antoher thing you can do is have a small army harass one base. Then they tp to them, you run that army out, then your batriders attack someone else. That way, they don't know what hit them. Worst of all, noobs cant control more than 1 situation at a time, so you can exploit this and use it to your advantage with your other 3 players.

So yeah, I wasn't insulting you, I just find it funny that some people panic like that

[G-Blunted]

Originally Posted by zx9r

yeah, you are correct, this wouldnt work 1v1 or probably not even 2v2, because of the lack of units for the first 10 mins of the game can easily get u GG'ed.

No...actually this strategy originated by a now Orcish Legend by the name of "nc.dude". Solo Blademaster, no rax tech, to mass air. Search for some of his replays, he does it the best....it's kinda ****ing gay strat though. Kinda like AKM's solo Bloodmage...

[xgoonx]

well obviousley you cant harrass every1, so that would give the enemies allies a chance to get some anti air, but thats only if their not noobs. But its a very good strategy with your allies help harrassing. What im saying is that people would have to pitch in on the harrassment. So im guessing your allies help you?


lol this reply was soooo pointless and stupid, I just need to talk about warcraft now

[zx9r]

Yes, allies play a big part. Like i said, one (named ironically iLikeToTower) gosu towered the HELL out of the map... and im talking hundreds of towers. So the enemy was basically confined to half the map (there was no hope of them breaking the tower wall, even when they tried siege) so I had free reign to harass, without having to worry about my base being sieged. If they were smart, they would have turtled in their bases, and teched to tanks/heavy melee and sent a zepplin to our bases, but obviously they werent the brightest opponnents. I found the replay however my pc is messin up, ill at least attempt to send a few screenies of the towering job, I was truly impressed.

[G-Blunted]

dude...HU mass towers is so far from gosu it's rediculus....and you must be talking about 4v4 games right??

[zx9r]

Originally Posted by G-Blunted

dude...HU mass towers is so far from gosu it's rediculus....and you must be talking about 4v4 games right??

I would normally agree, except for the fact that this guy has a 75% win and all he does is Human tower. He = gosu in my opinion. Pulling off 75% win in RT ALONE is pratically gosu, and doing so by towering is just nutty... Most ppl could not pull off what he did. It appeared he had 2 control groups of peasants, 2 expos after the first 5 mins, a shreadder (naturally), a LOT of wood peons, and only a AM (water elemental) and a few foots to defend the towers in progress of being built. I counted over 200 towers, all which were masonry upgraded. He also built like 6-8 at a time with each control group, one on the top of the map and one on the bottom. I asked him why he didnt use orc, because they tend to be easier to tower with, and he replied with his win % etc etc. Yes this was a 4v4 game, but even if the other 2 on our team had up and died, we would have won thanks to the HUGE amount of towers, i mean they took up a good 1/5 of the walkable terrain by the time the game had ended. He was more gosu than any orc ive seen, other than the pros. Ill get the replay or a few screenies tonight for u to see what im talking about.

More info:
http://www.battle.net/war3/images/maps/fullscaleassault-3dmap.jpg

This is the map. Full Scale Assault, 4v4, we started on the left, tower guy started in bottom position, i started at top. After 10-15 mins, he had both upper and lower passages (in between the 2 mines) completely towered. After about 20, he had started moving in towards pinks base, and the game was over 10 minutes later when he had tower-killed pink and was moving towards green. I just had a brainstorm too... use MG's to taunt anyone trying to get towers down :yamer ... would it help? How effective are they at taking siege damage? I dont play NE much...