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10-27-2005, 10:28 PM
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| Best Race to use Firelord with?
Ever since playing with him last night, I've been totally obsessed with him. And so, I wish to know which Race is probably the best one to use him with. Any help is appreciated. ^_^ | 
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10-27-2005, 11:36 PM
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| Best race? There isn't really a best race, but a strategy that should be used with him. He's a summon hero, so you would probably use him with ranged units, probably with a BM and NE hunts/archer etc. | |
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10-28-2005, 12:32 AM
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| NE eh...
I figured, he did especially well with a certain race. ** | |
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10-28-2005, 08:08 AM
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| race doesnt matter I think... beast master+fire lord = mass summon.. and if you do this early enough, the enemy hasn't yet hopefully gotten dispel.. well, only hum get dispel at tier2 but bm+fl mass summon should work wonders vs. ud or orc... | |
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10-29-2005, 04:08 AM
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| Alright, I figured that there was a race that did especially well with him or something. Thanks!  | |
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10-29-2005, 05:30 AM
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| usually ne.... | |
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10-31-2005, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Darkmatter Ever since playing with him last night, I've been totally obsessed with him. And so, I wish to know which Race is probably the best one to use him with. Any help is appreciated. ^_^ |
Like the other guys said he is good with all the races until the opponent gets dispel means (because of the lava spawn), his other spells require mana boost.
For example it is used with FS against UD or OC. The thing is that this hero has good spells. Sometimes it is good with HM also because beside the lava spawn the other spells are effective and good also, but they need brilliance, especially that incineration. The fact that the lava spawn multiplies itself is this hero's best weapon.
When I play HM and I use this hero after the AM I use incinerate and soul burn, also when he gets lvl2 or 3 at his incineration I put on him orb of fire and he becomes one super damage machine.
The TFT 1.17 was the FireLord patch because incineration didn't require mana, he was almost a bug in 2v2. | |
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10-31-2005, 08:48 PM
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Join Date: May 2003 Location: Temple Prime, Sarajevo Age: 22 Posts: 16,127
| Any race can effectively use firelord. NE will have better meat shield for the fire lord to take less damage, also the incinerate will help kill off more units considering hunts damage splash.
With orc, its an effective summon rusher unit, can also effectively take out burrows and other heavy armored units and buildings.
Humans, you can have a paladin heal him or have an archmage give extra mana to him.
The possibilities are endless. I don't really use him with UD. | 
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10-31-2005, 09:28 PM
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| He sucks now don't use him | |
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10-31-2005, 10:58 PM
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Join Date: May 2003 Location: Temple Prime, Sarajevo Age: 22 Posts: 16,127
| Mostly because Incinerate is now an arrow effect. However, the human's brillance aura or the stat can easily counter its mana reductions. | |
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11-01-2005, 12:45 AM
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| He still is a good hero even though he has went though a few major nurfs. Human seems to be closer to the race of choice do to their other heros(AM and pally), Undead really have nothing that helps the fire lord execpt statues which i dont see too often.
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11-01-2005, 01:08 AM
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Join Date: May 2003 Location: Temple Prime, Sarajevo Age: 22 Posts: 16,127
| Statues are always there. Just you only need about 2-3 to keep an army happy. | |
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11-01-2005, 06:17 AM
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| I see. Thanks guys. He's one of my favorite neutral heroes. I'll use him with NE and see whats up.  | |
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11-01-2005, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Icedragon Undead really have nothing that helps the fire lord execpt statues which i dont see too often. | The UD has super heroes, all their heroes are better than the FL. | |
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11-01-2005, 03:55 PM
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Join Date: May 2003 Location: Temple Prime, Sarajevo Age: 22 Posts: 16,127
| Exactly, the UD army is mostly held up by the heroes. | |
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11-02-2005, 12:17 AM
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| what i ment was they dont have much that help the firelord out i didnt say they bad heros i just said they didnt not have much that supports the firelord. learn to interpret what i say. The ud like hell wolf and theo said are upheld by heros and i agree i wouldnt use the firelord with undead mainly because the deathknight lich dreadlord and cryptlord(iffy) are better than him.
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11-02-2005, 12:38 AM
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Join Date: May 2003 Location: Temple Prime, Sarajevo Age: 22 Posts: 16,127
| Also, you cannot heal major hit points, unless you have potions and such. | |
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11-02-2005, 12:55 AM
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| another true statement due to the undead healing 2 hp a second on blight... its awsome that the skull only costs 50 gold mobile 2 hp a sec generator 
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11-02-2005, 12:57 AM
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Join Date: May 2003 Location: Temple Prime, Sarajevo Age: 22 Posts: 16,127
| Yeah but Firelord is not undead. So he cannot heal the 2 hp per second. He can only get health from stats and potions. | |
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11-02-2005, 01:05 AM
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| Basicly, Undead only uses Neutral heros in mirror matches, otherwise there is no point to it. | |
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