Fave Dota hero

[Chris]

Avatar increases Hit Points, Attack damage, adds armor and makes you immune to magic that doesn't require triggers or ultimates.

[Jenny]

I don't think Naix's avatar increases. It just adds 10/20/30 dmg respectively per level and makes him magic immune.

[Dream_Walker]

but not immune to pudges dismember or tormented soul's diabloic edict! i found it out the hard way thru bkb! (gives avatar)

[Chris]

Because those spells were either had ultimate base, or were done via trigger.

[Ntrik_]

yea, maybe they need to fix that? I mean cmon.. its spell immune..

[Chris]

They can't fix making ultimates doing nothing to magic immune monsters. They could fix it if the unit has spell immunity and it spawned a unit that does magic damage.

[LuNa[eP]]

avatar gets you immune to SPELLS, not physical damage. Laguna BLADE is physical, nether swap either, and so are diabolic edict, and another infinity of abilities.
laguna overpasses avatar, but finger of death doesn't.
cuz finger is magic based and laguna isn't.

[Jenny]

All ultimates penetrate avatar.

[Dream_Walker]

Originally Posted by Jenny

All ultimates penetrate avatar.

how wrong. freezing field doesnt, zap doesnt, eclipse doesnt, and im PRETTY sure laguna doesnt...although dagon does

[morbidgolem]

Hey I've been trying out this guy called Nerubian Weaver... he seems good as he can escape from battle and go back in time to regain his health... anyone got any ideas on which items or strategies I can use?

[Dream_Walker]

get burize and hes ownage

[Chris]

Or if you want some real fun. Get Clinkz and try to get Sacred Rapier. That can be annoying as hell sometimes.

[morbidgolem]

Burize?! For an agility?!
I once got a divine rapier for my Soul Keeper... the best it could do was kill a creep in 2 shots... It wasn't a good choice...
On the other hand... A leviathan with just a burize and heart of tarrasque (I think he was level 20?) and he could easily kill ganging creeps after like 2 shots.
My advice? It's not worth getting strength for agility. To prove this is what I told you about Soul Keeper and if the that's what the best strength item can do for an agility... it's not worth even getting a burize.

[Jenny]

Divine Rapier isn't a strength item. It's a dagger that drops on death. It has +250 damage.

Leviathan has the spin attack, so of course he was farming quick. However, a Soul Keeper with one image up farms real well with or without items.

[Chris]

The annoying thing about the Sacred Rapier are people that have cloaking abilities when they use these. Heroes like Gondar, Rikimaru, and Bone Clinkz could just hide and deal 250 damage to your sorry ass. The annoying thing with Clinkz is combining the damage with level 4 Strafe. GG target.

[morbidgolem]

Yeh, I said strength but I obviously meant damage. It's easy to get mixed up between the 2 words. And against a horde of 5 ganging creeps, Soul Keeper does not farm well even with a divine rapier!

[Chris]

Drow Ranger farms REALLY well. Come on, has a chance to crush a creep in a single shot. However, inexperienced players should start using Cold Arrows with her. If you don't, then its hopeless.

[morbidgolem]

Now I remember why Silencer's ultimate is crap!!
It's coz you run up to a hero and attack them...
They see that using spells on you is futile...
They run back until you can't hit them anymore...
They come back and use a spell on you before you can silence them...
This is why silence sucks.

And I am still looking for a real Leviathan and Nerubian Weaver strategy, pplz.

[Jenny]

Soul Keeper farms amazingly with images. You're on crack, my god.

Damage Items > Attribute items IMO.

Soul Keeper is amazing with a rapier or MKB or something when he goes range and pops out two images. Thats when you just let go of your mouse and die with dignity.

Silencer's ultimate is amazing with paired with diffusal blade.

MoM is still Leviathan's best bet even though it got nerfed. Weaver has no real strategy. He's got basically perma cloak and fast attack speed. One skill of his gurantees two hits on a hero so if you've got burize/mkb/cranium then theres two chances you could get the bonus MKB damage, a critical, or a bash.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by morbidgolem

Now I remember why Silencer's ultimate is crap!!
It's coz you run up to a hero and attack them...
They see that using spells on you is futile...
They run back until you can't hit them anymore...
They come back and use a spell on you before you can silence them...
This is why silence sucks.

And I am still looking for a real Leviathan and Nerubian Weaver strategy, pplz.

As I said, Silence pwns Goblin Techies or melee caster people. Goblin Techies cannot blow themselves up when silenced, you can easily take advantage of it.