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01-25-2006, 06:02 PM
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| Double Edge + War Stomp at lvl 4 each is about 600 dmg. Add in the attacks and you can get up to 800 damage, which will destroy all Int and Agil heroes. I think it rapes 
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01-25-2006, 07:00 PM
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#342 (permalink)
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| Last I checked, all Int and Agil heros will have more than 800 HP at level 9...though don't quote me on that. |
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01-25-2006, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream_Walker Double Edge + War Stomp at lvl 4 each is about 600 dmg. Add in the attacks and you can get up to 800 damage, which will destroy all Int and Agil heroes. I think it rapes  | Not factoring magic resistance or if its considered physical then armor. I just find the added early stats to HP and attack really help. You have plenty of mana to stomp alot and get in a few attacks. Usually early game if I gank a int/agi and some strength heroes I have no problem dropping them past half. The early bonus to HP/Attack also helps farm alot quicker. |
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01-26-2006, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by iJenny I've never gotten Double Edge before. Stomp/Stats seemed to be better. | Its a risktaker within itself. Much like Double-Edge used in Pokemon, on one hand you do damage, but on the other you are hurting yourself causing damage. But with the strength Bradwarden has, it isn't that much of a big deal. |
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01-26-2006, 07:00 AM
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| they should bring back invoker.
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01-26-2006, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Wing Zero i saw a rikimari go for a refresher orb once
b/c he thought he was another hero | Damn people will never understand that permanent orbs S-****ING-TACK with trigger orbs. You just don't get life leech when your maim triggers, but you do leech the rest of the hits. |
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01-26-2006, 11:52 PM
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#347 (permalink)
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| The DotA Thread! [Basic Strats and Other Stuff] I was wondering what would be the best hero combos for Dota for lets say:
2v2
3v3
4v4
5v5?
I have heard that 5 str heroes would dominate the game with Warchief, Tiny, Crxlis, Slrthr and SprtBrkr..just as an example....I am open to suggestions.  |
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01-27-2006, 12:52 AM
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#348 (permalink)
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| uhhh naix's feast isn't an orb so it stacks with santanic also leoric's aura to make 83% LL if you actually come across that situation.
sange yasha will still work with santanic, although you don't get maim because LL overrides, you still get blazing fast bonus. i'd rather invest in a santanic early on then get a buriza or mkb but i don't think naix is all that great anymore. old ver his leech was 60%.
i think dota is flawed in the sense of defense. if you make a team built to counter pushes and kill all the heros that push, then you can easliy win the game by waiting for your opponet to attack/ farming/ and ganking heros that walk out of line. this is basically what i do with scourge v sent because i think scourge heros don't have the power to go on their own.
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01-27-2006, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by micro.micro uhhh naix's feast isn't an orb so it stacks with santanic also leoric's aura to make 83% LL if you actually come across that situation.
sange yasha will still work with santanic, although you don't get maim because LL overrides, you still get blazing fast bonus. i'd rather invest in a santanic early on then get a buriza or mkb but i don't think naix is all that great anymore. old ver his leech was 60%.
i think dota is flawed in the sense of defense. if you make a team built to counter pushes and kill all the heros that push, then you can easliy win the game by waiting for your opponet to attack/ farming/ and ganking heros that walk out of line. this is basically what i do with scourge v sent because i think scourge heros don't have the power to go on their own. | Maim still goes off. When it does it just cancels a leech. |
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01-27-2006, 07:50 AM
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#350 (permalink)
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| 2v2 would be something like...
Mangina and Warchief/Dark Ranger.
1v1 would definatly have to be one of the psn ranged classes. Won't ever beat them. |
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01-27-2006, 03:55 PM
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| Maim is just orb of slow anyways. Orb of slow attaches a spell and can make anything a chance of working. Much like a passive, that is how stuff liek Notrom's old Silence was done. |
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01-27-2006, 08:46 PM
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| 1v1 = Shadow Fiend. |
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01-27-2006, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Hellwolf_36 Maim is just orb of slow anyways. Orb of slow attaches a spell and can make anything a chance of working. Much like a passive, that is how stuff liek Notrom's old Silence was done. | it doesnt work with all spells .gif) .
I also find it dumb how when they introduce a new hero, hes blatant imba, then they nerf him too much to where hes not really picked much. I was thinking of Silencer when i typed this  |
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01-27-2006, 08:54 PM
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Join Date: May 2003 Location: Temple Prime, Sarajevo Age: 22 Posts: 16,118
| Only spells that required mana as a base would be shutten up.
Yeah, the new Silencer is a little more messed up than the old one we used to know and love. Then again, he was a tower pwner. Because you could ks a tower by summoning infernals at the last second and letting them fight for you. Then agian, Infernals didn't have that much life force on them to begin with! |
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01-28-2006, 04:35 AM
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Join Date: May 2003 Location: Temple Prime, Sarajevo Age: 22 Posts: 16,118
| Depends on all the skills of the players and situational. The stun brothers is a good two on two... Leoric/Sven. |
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01-28-2006, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream_Walker 1v1 = Shadow Fiend. | Veno or Warchief would dominate. |
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01-28-2006, 05:14 AM
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| You're all wrong on the 1v1. KotL can't be stopped. With his ult, there is just no stopping it. And for the record, Treant protector and Crystal Maiden dominate 2v2's. Two Aoe ults, one complimenting the other. it gets nasty.
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01-28-2006, 07:37 AM
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#358 (permalink)
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| i prefer blackwohle and freezing field or w/e is called. u can't stop or interupt this combo
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01-28-2006, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Malcom Sex You're all wrong on the 1v1. KotL can't be stopped. With his ult, there is just no stopping it. And for the record, Treant protector and Crystal Maiden dominate 2v2's. Two Aoe ults, one complimenting the other. it gets nasty. | His ult can't be stopped?
What the ****ing hell are you talking about?
Just have to have one nuke, and then his ults done, and killing KotL is easy, it's just early game that he's a pain. |
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01-28-2006, 08:04 AM
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| peronally i like omniknight's degen aura with pudges rot
chase soem one
they go O NOES
me and trojan did this once
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