The DotA Thread! [Basic Strats and Hero/Item talk]

[micro.micro]

isn't it diminishing effects? so the first 8% would roll then the second 25%?

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Harris.On.Rento

evasion doesn't stack? so if I buy radiance first, i only get the 8% evasion when i buy butterfly after that. so butterfly's 25% evasion does nothing?

As Dream_walker says, its the greater % first. Or you could drop your Radiance fast, then pick it back it up. This is gauranteed to get your 25%.

[Dream_Walker]

Originally Posted by micro.micro

isn't it diminishing effects? so the first 8% would roll then the second 25%?

maybe im not leet on the %'s and stuff cuz it doesnt bother me :P

[Jenny]

Evasion doesn't stack so there wouldn't be diminishing returns.

If you had both radiance and butterfly it'd take the highest percentage. Durr.

[micro.micro]

Originally Posted by iJenny

Evasion doesn't stack so there wouldn't be diminishing returns.

If you had both radiance and butterfly it'd take the highest percentage. Durr.

if it stacked, it would be 32% if it is diminishing returns it rolls the first percent then the second instead of combining both % and rolling once.

so i don't understand what you mean by saying if it doesn't stack it can't be diminishing. bashers are diminishing so why not dodge?

[Chris]

Because dodge allows you to completely miss an attack. Bash just stuns and does more damage, look at it in the form of effects and what they do.

[micro.micro]

i heard that morphling's adept resets all cooldowns. i haven't had time to try this yet but would it work with hand of midas? i know it works with helm of domin but i wonder if HoM would be useful on him with this strat...

[Chris]

Here is something you and some friends should try:

• Make a dota game, make it private so friends or people you know can play. At least teams of 3+ will suffice
• Make the rules -AR
• When the game starts, get your items. One person should get the chicken and share control with all allies
• ALL PLAYERS GO TO THE MIDDLE and stay in middle except to get runes or go back to heal/items
• Fight in a bloody onslaught with creeps and your guys vs thiers.

I was at the Cove one day, and I saw some guys do this. It was pretty hilarious and fun to watch.

[Dream_Walker]

Originally Posted by micro.micro

i heard that morphling's adept resets all cooldowns. i haven't had time to try this yet but would it work with hand of midas? i know it works with helm of domin but i wonder if HoM would be useful on him with this strat...

yes it works, because its the same type of item (cooldown).

[Chris]

I just played as Vengful spirit with the guys at the cove. I rocked, although I was 10-8. I had Butterfly, Buriza, Wraith Band, Power Treads, Sange/Yasha, and I was about to make MKB so I had a Demon Edge in my last slot.

I didn't get the picture emailed to myself AGAIN! I will try when I get back on that PC.

[micro.micro]

what version of dota did they nerf image bashing? images no longer bash so it is pointless to get a basher on image heros.... or does it only happen to heros like phantom lancer? because i distintively remember terrorblade's images bashing when i played in the old verions...

[Jenny]

Images don't get any passive effects besides critical and mana break.

[Harris.On.Rento]

last night I played a dota game with Sniper. it was 5v5 but people started leaving and in the end it was only me vs. Pudge and Tiny. I didn't killed Pudge but I guess he got pissed and left cos I danced so much and constantly dodged his meat hook and tiny's avalanche. At the end, I had Lothar's Edge, Sange & Yasha, Butterfly, Cranium Basher, Hyperstone and Power Treads. but I lost after all. Not because of tiny, because of creeps. They destroyed my base and I couldn't catch Tiny cos he had boots of travel and he always teleported away.. but it sure was a good game =)

[Dream_Walker]

didnt you have headshot? because most certainly having a 40/50% (whatever) chance to stun him would help...In most cases, you cant do anything channeling vs a Sniper that isnt stunned because he could just attack you and you'd be interupted.

[micro.micro]

yea sniper's skill is pretty much a mkb... no way tiny could have used BoT if you attacked him.

[l33t 0n3]

Image heros should NEVER ever bash. When the images bash, it stops any bashes from the main hero. For instance if you stun a target for 5 seconds with Nessaj's chaos bolt then bash with an image at second #3, he will be un-stunned.

Evasion doesn't stack at all.

Originally Posted by micro.micro

if you can't double crit then how come on pa i see a scramble of numbers sometimes when i have a buriza and her ult?

i always thought if both occured the higher crit would take place but sometimes i still see a jumble of numbers when i play her.

Display bug. It's been proven several times that double crits can't occur.

are you talking about with triggers or the item orb of slow?

Any item like Maelstorm, orb of slow, etc get interrupted for the hit that you crit or bash.

[Chris]

Kardel is difficult. He is ever more annoying to kill if he has been fed kills. Like that one game, Greg still rememebers this.

[Dream_Walker]

Originally Posted by l33t_0n3

Any item like Maelstorm, orb of slow, etc get interrupted for the hit that you crit or bash.

I know.

Originally Posted by Hellwolf_36

He is ever more annoying to kill if he has been fed kills. Like that one game, Greg still rememebers this.

he was a pussy, and never fought anybody 1v1.

[Harris.On.Rento]

yea but he always ran away from me. And he teleported to creeps so that finally they got into my base and I couldn't go out there and chase Tiny cos I had to defend all the time.

[Dream_Walker]

couldnt you use leaver heroes?