Zleadins, is there a future?

[Odysee]

are zealdins any good? i mean, wit this gear:
coh
stormlash
gore riders
2bk rings
highlords
zaka
verdungo's
steelrend
shako? eh?

[FWI]

Originally Posted by Odysee

are zealdins any good? i mean, wit this gear:
coh
stormlash
gore riders
2bk rings
highlords
zaka
verdungo's
steelrend
shako? eh?

First of all a rough check looks like your resists are going to be an immeadiate problem. Second, you didnt give quite enough information for us to answer your very broad question. I have seen great zealots and I have seen godly zealots. There is a future.

[Odysee]

my question is, what's the key to an owning zealot, some say its crushing blow, other say it's the +% damage to [put evil monster here] on coh and like

[FWI]

Originally Posted by Odysee

my question is, what's the key to an owning zealot, some say its crushing blow, other say it's the +% damage to [put evil monster here] on coh and like

are we talking pvm or pvp... i still havent figured that one out for sure...

some things to get to though in no particular order:

-75 resists in hell minimum
-enough ias for 4 frame zeal
-high damage reduce % [max is 50 so get close]
-good defense
-high attack rating

I like your items you chose but you have to think about more than just something that would do well in each slot. You gotta see the whole picture more. Work on those resists too.

If you ask a way too specific quesiton it'll be easier... and are you talking pvm or pvp or both

[Odysee]

mostly pvm, if he could do pvp it would be awsome

[SweatyOgre]

I suppose you'd do allright for PvM with that gear, but it'd never work for PvP. Your DR, AR, IAS and damage wouldn't be high enough. Without exile you'd get raped too.

[aphextwin]

i'd replace stormlash with a botd eba or grief phase

[SweatyOgre]

I'd replace almost all of it, but that's his gear, and he wanted to know how good that gear would be.

[CuriousToad]

my zealadin uses "botd,gaze,bk rings,hoz,sandstorm,drac,and string of ears and he owns PvM and PvP

[FWI]

Eh with the stuff you posted unless im too sick to relize something else thats 15-ish resists in hell and that wont cut it in pvm... For starters I dont like your weapon all too much although its descent. It still looks like you didnt factor resists, ias, or ar into any of this and these are some escentials. Looks like you looked for good life which is a plus but try going into say hell mephisto with 15 resists... or trying hiting a huge monster with no attack rating. an easy ar boost is duel angelic [set] rings. for resist - you can P diamond or um your hoz for starters.

also... a KEY to the zealot is his choice of charms... what you gonna do with those?

[Aqua-THF]

Your assuming his HoZ is not already Perf Dmnded. You also forget his amulet. Charms may have a lot of resists, elemental damage, and 3/20/20. Just saying, dont assume, makes a ass out of u and me.

[FWI]

Originally Posted by Aqua-THF

Your assuming his HoZ is not already Perf Dmnded. You also forget his amulet. Charms may have a lot of resists, elemental damage, and 3/20/20. Just saying, dont assume, makes a ass out of u and me.

I tend to assume when poor amounts of information are given. Bad habit I know but its tough to give help without a well described question. Also - I asked him what his thoughts on charms are - I dont see how that makes an ass out of me.

I assumed his hoz wasnt already socketed because i figured he would have included that if he already had socketed this said item.

[eatbutt]

ok guys... Zeal Pally's are only good vs 2 types of characters in PvP... Novice Barbs or Other Zeal Pally's.
-They are slow (there charge isn't high enough to do any sort of damage unless maybe a crappy bow-zon)
-They dont do much damage (what, maybe 6-7k?)
-ANY kind of char can beat them! yes... any

My idea on a build for a zeal pally, Build a FURY S.S. Druid! They have tons more life, and can do the same amount of damage. Plus they have pets and once again ALOT MORE LIFE!

[FWI]

Originally Posted by eatbutt

ok guys... Zeal Pally's are only good vs 2 types of characters in PvP... Novice Barbs or Other Zeal Pally's.
-They are slow (there charge isn't high enough to do any sort of damage unless maybe a crappy bow-zon)
-They dont do much damage (what, maybe 6-7k?)
-ANY kind of char can beat them! yes... any

My idea on a build for a zeal pally, Build a FURY S.S. Druid! They have tons more life, and can do the same amount of damage. Plus they have pets and once again ALOT MORE LIFE!

I'm gonna have to disagree with you. Yeah Fury druids are awesome but I had an old .09 zealot build with no syns on either zeal or charge, runnin around with an etheral zoded bstar - and you'd be surprised how well he did with no syns on charge or zeal [killed good ele druids, good trappers, and actually did well against good bone necs as well - etc]

Also, any kind of char can pretty much beat any kind of char... Some just have advantages over others

not to mention... this topic was based on a pvm question

[ZConnor]

I have a good Zealdin that does very well in hell, soloing.

I had rends, but found the LL from Dracs to be more effective with keeping my azz alive.

I use Famine zerker cuz it has high LL and the elemental dam is sweet. Kinda like a uber-bstar.

I also use a Atma's Scarab for the AMP that helps with phys immunes.

Anyway, y'all already know this.

ZConnor

[eatbutt]

Originally Posted by Odysee

mostly pvm, if he could do pvp it would be awsome

so i offered my PvP advice on it...

[DarkZero]

well u kno guys even tho i dont have a zealer i found that my charger/zealer is better especailly for PvP cuz of the high amount of damage he can deal in a single blow. True that charge's bug hasnt been fixed yet but hopefully blizz will get on top of that and soon chargers will be seen more often. There are only a few builds ive had trouble dueling those include summoning necros(which u dont see that often), some ele druids (only 1s with good equipment ), now ww barbs can be a problem (but not that big if u can successfully land a few zeal hits with some good poison dmg). But thats just my opinoin

[FWI]

Originally Posted by DarkZero

well u kno guys even tho i dont have a zealer i found that my charger/zealer is better especailly for PvP cuz of the high amount of damage he can deal in a single blow. True that charge's bug hasnt been fixed yet but hopefully blizz will get on top of that and soon chargers will be seen more often. There are only a few builds ive had trouble dueling those include summoning necros(which u dont see that often), some ele druids (only 1s with good equipment ), now ww barbs can be a problem (but not that big if u can successfully land a few zeal hits with some good poison dmg). But thats just my opinoin

i agree with you there - when i had my old .09 charge/zealer runnin around in .10 and doing good damage, i had problems with about the same character classes. WW barbs will always be a problem with charge/zeal if they use the right ww techniques... If they keep the short ww going you cant really hit them often.

[DarkZero]

Originally Posted by FWI

i agree with you there - when i had my old .09 charge/zealer runnin around in .10 and doing good damage, i had problems with about the same character classes. WW barbs will always be a problem with charge/zeal if they use the right ww techniques... If they keep the short ww going you cant really hit them often.

well u kno that they take dmg even when there are ww but it only affects them after they stop ww.(ive noticed this cuz i have a ww barb and i only die[if i ever do] after i finish ww) :frustrate

[eatbutt]

summon necros suck to my charger/zealer, all you have to do is put your mouse on the necro and they are dead. and if they have tons of guys hovering over them, the mouse will still single out the necro.
but smiters pretty much own zealer/chargers too