best uber trist char

[insane hammers]

just plz tell me wht u think the best uber trist char is causs a hamerdin gets ****ing raped in there. :yum :hXc

i heard a smiter can kick ass in there but i dont know

[TheRealMalakai]

Originally Posted by insane hammers

just plz tell me wht u think the best uber trist char is causs a hamerdin gets ****ing raped in there. :yum :hXc

i heard a smiter can kick ass in there but i dont know

Smiter/Zealot.

A smiter rapes in any form of solo combat, and the Zealot form can easily dismiss any form of minions. Thus complete rape in Uber Trist.

Oh and as for your hammerdin its getting raped because your to weak. You should have Max Concentration, Max Hammers, Max Defiance and Max Holy sheild.. and then Vigor last. That should give you ample defense if you have enough point sinto Vita you shouldn't have a problem. Thats just my variation on the hammerdin to sucsessfully dish out to the Uber Tristies.

[(d2)baaldead]

ok wow... noob hammerdins wont do anything in uber trist... they wont die but they dont do the damage to hurt d baal or meph..

[insane hammers]

well i was to weak probably causs i just got everything stolen off of me except a shako, enigma, maras, and monarch spirit shield.. kinda dissapointing. i had everything maxed out except defiance which was on 10 with noo plus to skills


:lucifer

[Johnny]

Originally Posted by TheRealMalakai

Smiter/Zealot.

A smiter rapes in any form of solo combat, and the Zealot form can easily dismiss any form of minions. Thus complete rape in Uber Trist.

Oh and as for your hammerdin its getting raped because your to weak. You should have Max Concentration, Max Hammers, Max Defiance and Max Holy sheild.. and then Vigor last. That should give you ample defense if you have enough point sinto Vita you shouldn't have a problem. Thats just my variation on the hammerdin to sucsessfully dish out to the Uber Tristies.

stop telling people to max defiance/holy sheild before vigor...

it goes:
Max Con and Hammers (1 point per leveling switching off)
Max Vigor
Max Blessed Aim
Remaining into Holysheild


if you have defiance on you will do no damage with your shitty ass hammers that don't even have the synergy bonus from vigor/ba... you will do about 2k tops...



smiter is the best you can get for uber trist... just make sure to have some life tap going, and he can tank like a motha ****a... beleive me, i watched my friends smiter going, and his health would go red, green, red, green... when he gets a life tap on he goes to full lol

[Induhvidual_1]

The defiance is for holy shield (it's a synergy)

And yes smiter is the best

[Johnny]

either way. depending on your level, adding more defense does nothing when you still get pwned by all elemental attacks due conviction...

depending on your level (you say after defiance/hs max vigor) you could lose as much as 560% damage for your hammers. (14% per level, 20 levels, 2 synergies). Just because you have a high defense does not mean you wont get the shit kicked out of you by elemental+conviction. You would be better off gaining all your hammer synergies and then just using salvation... you will have max resists + more hammer damage without needing to lose all your skill points for holysheild

[Chris]

Vengadin helps in trist, but you need conviction and probably Baranar's to make him a lethal killing machine, mine does almost 10k with all buffs and such attached.

Hammerdins take time to summon the Blessed Hammer and people like Uber D have like 90% magic immunity, have fun trying to do your 15k dmg when you can only do like 1000 or so.

[[Koolaid]]

Smiter = rapist

choose the rapist

[bitWISE]

I've done 4 complete (12 key portals) trist runs with my lvl 82 smiter and he ****ing owns. Two of the runs I didn't even die.

My gear:
Cham'd shako
HOTO, HoZ (primary)
CTA, lidless (secondary)
Archon COH
Arach
Dracs (MUST HAVE! Life tap will make u unstoppable)
Sandstormtrek
2 x BK ring
Rare +2 amy
4 x Offensive GC, 2 x Combat GC, random sc

Skills:
Max smite
Max holy shield
max fana
Max defiance
1 to salvation
1 to meditation
1 to prerequisites

Stats:
Energy - dont touch
Dex - enough to use gear
Str - enough to use gear
Vit - All

You'll want to use as much ED to demons as you can. As a smiter I do 2600 but thanks to demon ED I actually do more damage to the ubers than my friend who has 8k WW. My friends barb doesn't even do enough damage to keep their life from refilling! So as he fights it just goes up...its funny. I just use him to keep the minions off of me while I own the ubers.

Diablo: just use fana and smack away
Baal: You'll need meditation a lot here. Switch to fana when you have the mana to spare
Meph: DO NOT TURN OF SALVATION. I tried turning it off once and died instantly even though my gear has 188 res and he was life tapped.

[Ntrik_]

MEditation?

Dex? need about 130 for max block kthx.

And why dont you learn Zeal? You can still max smite along with it.. its just you wont have much def. And if you do want to get the defiance and defence, you can just get it from a merc.

Also, know that zeal and smite only costs 2 mana, you wont need meditation..

[Trojan]

125 is max blocking for paladin with holy shield .

[bitWISE]

Originally Posted by NtRik_

MEditation?

Dex? need about 130 for max block kthx.

And why dont you learn Zeal? You can still max smite along with it.. its just you wont have much def. And if you do want to get the defiance and defence, you can just get it from a merc.

Also, know that zeal and smite only costs 2 mana, you wont need meditation..

I need meditation for mana burn (even with pots baal owns my mana) and it also helps when using teleport to find keys. It's just a convenient skill to have IMO. Yes I could have gotten a defiance merc but I don't care for mercs. Why zeal? Which skill would you use when? Smite to stun then zeal to finish? How damage would you do with something like grief?

I'm not a D2 god...just saying what worked for me.

[Co.]

Smiter is by far the best.

Dracs / Exile / 100%+ CB is all you need.

[bitWISE]

whats the smite difference between exile and hoz? Doesn't the loss of +skills hurt?

[fritfrat]

Smiter doesn't even need crushing blow if you have grief, because you just deal so much base damage. Grief's damage does not show for smite, but if you use it, it is OBVIOUS that it pretty much triples your damage.

Also, my equipment is a bit different that BitWise's. I use grief, kiras, and exile. Exile gives a 15% chance to cast lifetap, and WITH dracs (5%), it is casted even more often. If you don't want to use exile, you can use Last Wish instead of Grief, which has a very high level life tap (bigger range) at 10% and might aura, but you need to make sure you get some IAS to get max frames per second.. for a phase blade and average-good fanat, you just need 6 IAS by items to get 4.1 attacks per second. Marrowwalks also have the ability to CAST life tap, which would allow you to just use whatever the heck you want and forget about life tap on other stuff.. but you do need to cast it every time :P.

And if you do use a hoz, try to get an uppd one. It increases your damage a little... but yet again, probably not even noticable if you use grief.

My smiter personally uses p combats, but I would suggest 20 life scs if you use Grief, because Grief already gives you enough damage.

So ya. I can solo trist with my smiter, and I generally don't die unless I get really unlucky against meph (because I am using salvation instead of fanat, not attacking as fast) and don't cast life tap soon enough. Hopefully someone can get something useful out of all that random stuff I just said :-D


EDIT:
Also, for baal, just use mana pots when he drains your mana. For me, I only use 2-4 against him every time I face him.

EDIT#2.. lol:

BitWise: The decrease in +skills does hurt your damage, but only by +4 skills. Actually, if it is a non-uppd hoz, it very well may still increase your damage, because hoz is exceptional while exiles are usually elite, giving you a lot more base damage.

Exiles are better, but if you don't mind the not-frequent life taps, hoz's are a LOT cheaper for not TOO much worse quality. But I have an uppd hoz and I still just use my exile

[bitWISE]

I play non-ladder so I can't up anything. Once I get another good char going I think I'll pass off my hoto and pick up a grief.

Are there are 1.11 compatible character editors? I really need to try shit out before spending weeks building.

[Fat-Jedi-cheese]

im makin a smiter...ladder uswest....hes lvl 73 maybe 2 to any of my skills...just wonderin why does a lot of ppl use only lvl 80s and lvl 82s to do uber trist? wouldnt it be easier to get to lvl 85+. also wuts the best shield to make a exile? and doesnt exile add a lvl 12 defiance so u get hella def?

[Johnny]

best sheild would be an eth vortex imo, there are several good sheilds that some offer good base, some good average, and some good max damage... but get ETH for defense...

yes, it gives you a def aura, which will help ALOT

[Co.]

Originally Posted by fritfrat

Smiter doesn't even need crushing blow if you have grief, because you just deal so much base damage. Grief's damage does not show for smite, but if you use it, it is OBVIOUS that it pretty much triples your damage.

Also, my equipment is a bit different that BitWise's. I use grief, kiras, and exile. Exile gives a 15% chance to cast lifetap, and WITH dracs (5%), it is casted even more often. If you don't want to use exile, you can use Last Wish instead of Grief, which has a very high level life tap (bigger range) at 10% and might aura, but you need to make sure you get some IAS to get max frames per second.. for a phase blade and average-good fanat, you just need 6 IAS by items to get 4.1 attacks per second. Marrowwalks also have the ability to CAST life tap, which would allow you to just use whatever the heck you want and forget about life tap on other stuff.. but you do need to cast it every time :P.

And if you do use a hoz, try to get an uppd one. It increases your damage a little... but yet again, probably not even noticable if you use grief.

My smiter personally uses p combats, but I would suggest 20 life scs if you use Grief, because Grief already gives you enough damage.

So ya. I can solo trist with my smiter, and I generally don't die unless I get really unlucky against meph (because I am using salvation instead of fanat, not attacking as fast) and don't cast life tap soon enough. Hopefully someone can get something useful out of all that random stuff I just said :-D


EDIT:
Also, for baal, just use mana pots when he drains your mana. For me, I only use 2-4 against him every time I face him.

EDIT#2.. lol:

BitWise: The decrease in +skills does hurt your damage, but only by +4 skills. Actually, if it is a non-uppd hoz, it very well may still increase your damage, because hoz is exceptional while exiles are usually elite, giving you a lot more base damage.

Exiles are better, but if you don't mind the not-frequent life taps, hoz's are a LOT cheaper for not TOO much worse quality. But I have an uppd hoz and I still just use my exile

No.

CB is what wins the game in a short amount of time. If you want to spend 1-2 HOURS killing ubur trist be my guest. But I would rather get +100% CB and finish it in less then 5 minutes.