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Old 12-05-2004, 09:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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New Rig

Shuttle XPC Black Barebone System SN95G5
AMD Athlon 64 3500+
Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM SATA Hard Drive
Nvidia 6800gt graphics card
Plextor 52x32x52 CD-RW Drive
CORSAIR XMS Xtreme Memory Speed Series, Xtra-Low Latency (2-2-2-5 timing) (1 gig, 2 x 512 dimms)
Logitech Dinovo
2 x SAMSUNG SyncMaster 710T-Black 17"

(total price = around $2280 - s/h)

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Old 12-05-2004, 11:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What are you using this for? gaming?
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Old 12-05-2004, 11:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Shuttle XPC Black Barebone System SN95G5
AMD Athlon 64 3500+
Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM SATA Hard Drive
Nvidia 6800gt graphics card
Plextor 52x32x52 CD-RW Drive
CORSAIR XMS Xtreme Memory Speed Series, Xtra-Low Latency (2-2-2-5 timing) (1 gig, 2 x 512 dimms)
Logitech Dinovo
2 x SAMSUNG SyncMaster 710T-Black 17"

(total price = around $2280 - s/h)

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Can I have some money?
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Old 12-05-2004, 11:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
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gaming, 3d modelling, and for use in conjunction with a bunch of computationally intensive engineering programs...

Note: I haven't picked out a specific 6800gt card yet... (I 'would' get the x800xt, but newegg's out of stock ...and the 6800ultra's power consumption is FAAAR too high for the case's 240watt PSU)...and I've already got a sound card to use with the system...

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Old 12-06-2004, 02:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
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get a new psu 240 is not enough these days.

get a BFG 6800 gt or Ultra... www.chumbo.com free shipping if you havent gotten this stuff yet, consitter pci-e. the gfx cards for pci-e are cheaper but the motherboards are a little more expensive. But i would definately check them out.
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Old 12-06-2004, 02:46 AM   #6 (permalink)
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pci-e is not an option right now, no mobos out there (more so for mini cases like the one im getting) support both the 939 interface AND pci-e

and the PSU isn't upgradable (comes with the case...and that case is the ONLY case out there of its size that supports the 939 interface).

(size is an issue...I'd like to go with a nice full-tower pc with all the extras...but I quite simply don't have the space to do so)

Edit: I was actually just looking at the BFG 6800gt... im also considering chaintech's 6800gt... and I calculated power consumption boundaries given my current setup, and the max power draw is at about 190 watts...

oh, and I 'could' get a pci-e based video card, but I'd have to get another case (there's this one by shuttle that supports the lga775 cpu interface and pci-e)...but that means no 64bit processor...

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Old 12-06-2004, 04:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Dude go ahead and get the PCI-E when NF4 chipsets come out.(I've heard soon)
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Old 12-07-2004, 02:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
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that's not really a good setup for what you're going to be using it for
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Old 12-07-2004, 06:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
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care to suggest another setup, antitheus?
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Old 12-08-2004, 01:00 PM   #10 (permalink)
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ok. I want to come out and introduce myself to everyone here, set the record straight. I've been here for a while and at times, I admit, my words seem harsh or asshole-ish. So I'm not trying to be an asshole - I'm just speaking the truth, ok?

I probably have a few years on all of you. I have my A+, was totally into building PC's. Even did it for a living cause I was so good at configurations, windows networking, etc.

I've always been into music. I've been playing several instruments since I was very young. I got into audio production using a pc years back. I was from a small dirt town, and my tastes were pretty different than everyone there.

A few years back, a friend of mine, an internationally reknowned industrial rock artist, told me about mac. I basically laughed at him. He told me about how he could get me a sweet deal on one. I declined.

I started getting curious. Finally I coughed up the money to get a (then) powerful g3 computer. I didn't like it at first.

I started using pro audio applications and realized I never get the hiccups I get in windows, and the apps supported are almost of a windows variety (there's only a couple small progs that don't work - and they're usually little home made programs anyway that aren't commercial). I was also pleased to know that all games since about 1995 came dual layered with mac data, installing as simple as windows and written to take special advantages of the processor configurations, resulting in mainly 2x the speed of windows counterparts.

Slowly but surely, I left all of my pc shit behind, I am now a successful international producer/artist myself. Every large city I've gone - it's everywhere. Recently I've noticed corporations needing OS X certification because they're phasing out windows related hardware and linux/unix by itself is not that intuitive or too expensive to upkeep.

I have friends of friends that use the G5 exclusively for making hit feature films: LOTR series, digitally remastering the Star Wars Trilogy, Shrek series - basically everything that has digital special fx in it because the programs used for the movies utilize a special chip on the mac processors and the dual high speed front side bus to process speeds 4 - 8 times greater than any production PC could reach.

Case in point, you can get the parts yourself to build your own g5. I know there's a lot of mac bashers out there.. but think of it this way - I've seen hollywood and basically the digital entertainment industry convert to mac years ago. It's getting now that all digital editing programs and games are being released 6 months to a year before they hit PC shelves. It's kinda like what happened in the 80s - obsoletion of dos or tandy- today's top tools are not going to be ported to windows. This is just the view of someone who's seen the tech industry change. There's a couple rumors out there that just wont die though. So I'm telling you all, from a personal perspective, they're not true. You can use any mouse you want and have all of the functions. Hear me out, don't attack me on this. I'm trying to be as nice as possible and get my point across. I'm not trying to convert anyone, I'm just presenting the facts and I'm speaking the honest absolute truth. I swear to you I was a PC guy for a long time.. but times are changing.

So in response to your question, I would suggest a dual proc g5, they run games twice as fast as the pc counterparts, and todays top producers use it for feature films, as has been the case for years. You'll have access to tools that PC users may never have.

Sorry for the long post everyone
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Old 12-08-2004, 10:44 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Well since hes obviously using this for gaming, I wouldn't think a MAC would be the best choice. The video card choices for the MAC are too slim, and high priced .
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you guys are soo freakin rich.. ugh.. all i got is a pentium 4 and 512 MB..
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Old 12-08-2004, 11:23 PM   #13 (permalink)
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hm... I 'was' considering getting a G5...but I'm totally inexperienced when it comes to macs...I'd have to relearn everything...

Edit: risendemon, price isn't an issue,...performance is...I'd be willing to shell a bit more for a computer that'll last me longer...
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Old 12-23-2004, 02:01 AM   #14 (permalink)
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you guys are soo freakin rich.. ugh.. all i got is a pentium 4 and 512 MB..
what he said!
also I don't think MAC is good for gaming. It is for 3d editing however (or so I heard)
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