Lock Picking

[Gimmi]

Does anyone here mess around with lock picking as a hobby?
I'm thinking of taking it up, because Souless just isnt as active as he used to be, and I find a gap in my schedule when he isn't making an ass of himself.

and no I don't think because I start picking locks im going to be some ubergodlike hollywood fag who breaks into anything just by looking at it.
so don't bother telling me it's not going to happen in under 30 seconds.

[SouLess]

I'm still active, theres just nothing I feel like posting about, cause most of the **** goes offtopic within 5 posts.

I used to lockpick all the time. It's not that hard if you have the lockpick set I had, cost me like 100$ too.

[Gimmi]

I was thinking about getting this http://www.lockpickshop.com/p-Lockpi...tion-plus.html set
unless you have a better one to recommend.

[CelestialBadger]

Just so you know it's illegal to own lockpicks without a locksmith license. But whatever...

I wouldn't spend a hundred dollars on picks. You can get a set for about 20 bucks with a couple tension wrenches, diamond/hook/ball/doubleball/rack pick...pretty much everything you should need. Then just buy a cheap pin and tumbler lock and practice.

[Gimmi]

Originally Posted by CelestialBadger

Just so you know it's illegal to own lockpicks without a locksmith license. But whatever...

Depends where you live.
California law states:

SECTION 466-469

466. Every person having upon him or her in his or her possession a
picklock, crow, keybit, crowbar, screwdriver, vice grip pliers,
water-pump pliers, slidehammer, slim jim, tension bar, lock pick gun,
tubular lock pick, floor-safe door puller, master key, or other
instrument or tool with intent feloniously to break or enter into any
building, railroad car, aircraft, or vessel, trailer coach, or
vehicle as defined in the Vehicle Code, or who shall knowingly make
or alter, or shall attempt to make or alter, any key or other
instrument above named so that the same will fit or open the lock of
a building, railroad car, aircraft, or vessel, trailer coach, or
vehicle as defined in the Vehicle Code, without being requested so to
do by some person having the right to open the same, or who shall
make, alter, or repair any instrument or thing, knowing or having
reason to believe that it is intended to be used in committing a
misdemeanor or felony, is guilty of misdemeanor. Any of the
structures mentioned in Section 459 shall be deemed to be a building
within the meaning of this section.

466.1. Any person who knowingly and willfully sells or provides a
lock pick, a tension bar, a lock pick gun, a tubular lock pick, or a
floor-safe door puller, to another, whether or not for compensation,
shall obtain the name, address, telephone number, if any, date of
birth, and driver's license number or identification number, if any,
of the person to whom the device is sold or provided. This
information, together with the date the device was sold or provided
and the signature of the person to whom the device was sold or
provided, shall be set forth on a bill of sale or receipt. A copy of
each bill of sale or receipt shall be retained for one year and
shall be open to inspection by any peace officer during business
hours.
Any person who violates any provision of this section is guilty of
a misdemeanor.

466.3. (a) Whoever possesses a key, tool, instrument, explosive, or
device, or a drawing, print, or mold of a key, tool, instrument,
explosive, or device, designed to open, break into, tamper with, or
damage a coin-operated machine as defined in subdivision (b), with
intent to commit a theft from such machine, is punishable by
imprisonment in the county jail for not more than one year, or by
fine of not more than one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both.
(b) As used in this section, the term "coin-operated machine"
shall include any automatic vending machine or any part thereof,
parking meter, coin telephone, coin laundry machine, coin dry
cleaning machine, amusement machine, music machine, vending machine
dispensing goods or services, or moneychanger.

466.5. (a) Every person who, with the intent to use it in the
commission of an unlawful act, possesses a motor vehicle master key
or a motor vehicle wheel lock master key is guilty of a misdemeanor.

(b) Every person who, with the intent to use it in the commission
of an unlawful act, uses a motor vehicle master key to open a lock or
operate the ignition switch of any motor vehicle or uses a motor
vehicle wheel lock master key to open a wheel lock on any motor
vehicle is guilty of a misdemeanor.
(c) Every person who knowingly manufactures for sale, advertises
for sale, offers for sale, or sells a motor vehicle master key or a
motor vehicle wheel lock master key, except to persons who use such
keys in their lawful occupations or businesses, is guilty of a
misdemeanor.
(d) As used in this section:
(1) "Motor vehicle master key" means a key which will operate all
the locks or ignition switches, or both the locks and ignition
switches, in a given group of motor vehicle locks or motor vehicle
ignition switches, or both motor vehicle locks and motor vehicle
ignition switches, each of which can be operated by a key which will
not operate one or more of the other locks or ignition switches in
such group.
(2) "Motor vehicle wheel lock" means a device attached to a motor
vehicle wheel for theft protection purposes which can be removed only
by a key unit unique to the wheel lock attached to a particular
motor vehicle.
(3) "Motor vehicle wheel lock master key" means a key unit which
will operate all the wheel locks in a given group of motor vehicle
wheel locks, each of which can be operated by a key unit which will
not operate any of the other wheel locks in the group.

466.6. (a) Any person who makes a key capable of operating the
ignition of a motor vehicle or personal property registered under the
Vehicle Code for another by any method other than by the duplication
of an existing key, whether or not for compensation, shall obtain
the name, address, telephone number, if any, date of birth, and
driver's license number or identification number of the person
requesting or purchasing the key; and the registration or
identification number, license number, year, make, model, color, and
vehicle identification number of the vehicle or personal property
registered under the Vehicle Code for which the key is to be made.
Such information, together with the date the key was made and the
signature of the person for whom the key was made, shall be set forth
on a work order. A copy of each such work order shall be retained
for two years, shall include the name and permit number of the
locksmith performing the service, and shall be open to inspection by
any peace officer or by the Bureau of Collection and Investigative
Services during business hours or submitted to the bureau upon
request.
Any person who violates any provision of this subdivision is
guilty of a misdemeanor.
(b) The provisions of this section shall include, but are not
limited to, the making of a key from key codes or impressions.
(c) Nothing contained in this section shall be construed to
prohibit the duplication of any key for a motor vehicle from another
key.

466.7. Every person who, with the intent to use it in the
commission of an unlawful act, possesses a motor vehicle key with
knowledge that such key was made without the consent of either the
registered or legal owner of the motor vehicle or of a person who is
in lawful possession of the motor vehicle, is guilty of a
misdemeanor.

466.8. (a) Any person who knowingly and willfully makes a key
capable of opening any door or other means of entrance to any
residence or commercial establishment for another by any method
involving an onsite inspection of such door or entrance, whether or
not for compensation, shall obtain, together with the date the key
was made, the street address of the residence or commercial
establishment, and the signature of the person for whom the key was
made, on a work order form, the following information regarding the
person requesting or purchasing the key:
(1) Name.
(2) Address.
(3) Telephone number, if any.
(4) Date of birth.
(5) Driver's license number or identification number, if any.
A copy of each such work order shall be retained for two years and
shall be open to inspection by any peace officer or by the Bureau of
Collection and Investigative Services during business hours or
submitted to the bureau upon request.
Any person who violates any provision of this subdivision is
guilty of a misdemeanor.
(b) Nothing contained in this section shall be construed to
prohibit the duplication of any key for a residence or commercial
establishment from another such key.
(c) Locksmiths licensed by the Bureau of Collection and
Investigative Services are subject to the provisions set forth in
Chapter 8.5 (commencing with Section 6980) of Division 3 of the
Business and Professions Code.
(d) The provisions of this section shall include, but are not
limited to, the making of a key from key codes or impressions.

466.9. (a) Every person who possesses a code grabbing device, with
the intent to use it in the commission of an unlawful act, is guilty
of a misdemeanor.
(b) Every person who uses a code grabbing device to disarm the
security alarm system of a motor vehicle, with the intent to use the
device in the commission of an unlawful act, is guilty of a
misdemeanor.
(c) As used in this section, "code grabbing device" means a device
that can receive and record the coded signal sent by the transmitter
of a motor vehicle security alarm system and can play back the
signal to disarm that system.

...

469. Any person who knowingly makes, duplicates, causes to be
duplicated, or uses, or attempts to make, duplicate, cause to be
duplicated, or use, or has in his possession any key to a building or
other area owned, operated, or controlled by the State of
California, any state agency, board, or commission, a county, city,
or any public school or community college district without
authorization from the person in charge of such building or area or
his designated representative and with knowledge of the lack of such
authorization is guilty of a misdemeanor.

So basically I would have to have intent to do a crime. Which I do not.

[SouLess]

http://www.lockpickshop.com/p-PXS-14.html > what you wanted. You don't need all that other ****.

[Gimmi]

Originally Posted by SouLeSS

http://www.lockpickshop.com/p-PXS-14.html > what you wanted. You don't need all that other ****.

I'd still need locks.
Besides, Im going in on it with my brother, who will likely give up after around a week, so I'd get a nice set 1/2 off.
maybe I'll just go with that and buy locks seperate. though I would like the Cd as a referance, hell Idk what I'm doing yet.

[SouLess]

You can find out all the information online. There are plenty of sites. Just go to a local hardware store and buy a buncha locks, they arn't that expensive.

Door locks, Safe locks, "Locker" locks, hook locks...you could buy the set for 30$, then spend 30$ -40$ on locks, and you'de be better off.

[Dragnskull]

**** lockpicking, just dont lose your key.

[Gimmi]

my key. why would I pick something I own?
Note: if you are a federal official. Im kidding. I will only be picking things I own.

[CelestialBadger]

I'm a federal official. Was about to arrest you till I saw the disclaimer. Carry on.

[Gimmi]

fwew, he bought it.