Political Affiliation?

[Bret]

Originally Posted by Tipsy

Congradulations, you just stereotyped 22% of the world's population. As I pointed out before, even though you may think not, or even agree with them, behind all the terrorism they are rational people just like you and me. They have a reason to be doing what they are doing that makes sense to them. And there is also quite a large percentage of Muslims that are not and/or do not support terrorism.

You say stereotype like its a bad thing.
Of course they have a reason, and know what they are doing. I didn't say they were stupid. But just because they have reasons doesn't make it right. People who commit suicide also believe that their reasons justify what they did. =\ The needlessly took a life.
The Muslims that don't support "terrorism" have lived in America too long. lol. They can say it easily enough because they know what freedom is, and they love it! But for those in the Middle East, its much different. They're zealots, and they the infidels gone. Its as simple as that.

[B~E]

Could this be the kind of beliefs our good friend unkwnusr2 was talking about ?

[Tipsy]

Originally Posted by MrBret

The Muslims that don't support "terrorism" have lived in America too long. lol. They can say it easily enough because they know what freedom is, and they love it! But for those in the Middle East, its much different. They're zealots, and they the infidels gone. Its as simple as that.

I'm not talking about Muslims in the United States, which is extremely small (7 million out of 1.3 billion in the rest of the world) compared to the Middle East and rest of the world. The term 'Muslim/Islamic terrorist' is an oxymoron. Islam is a religion of peace. You might as well say that Hitler and Stalin represent Christianity by saying that Osama Bing Laden or terrorism represent Islam. All of these ideas such as Jihad which has basically come to represent Islamic terrorism attacking the world merely means 'the struggle to do the right thing'. You want to know what Islam is really suppose to be, just take a look at the five pillars (faith, daily prayers, almsgiving, self-purification through fasting, and pilgrimage to Mecca) and tell me that you see something talking about destroying the United States. If you really look at Islam it does not provoke violence. Just like I talk about reading the bible, you have to read the Quran the same way. Muslims are only allowed to attack in self defense, when another Islamic State has been attacked, or if a country is oppressing any (not only Muslims) of its own people. The Quran tells Muslims to never ever attack out of anger anytime in their life, not to hurt innocents, and to use the minimal amount of force possible. Tell me that this teaches to destroy the United States and the west. There is no way that anyone in the right mind could see Islam supports this terrorism. If you want to stereotype people in the Middle East another way then try to do so, but stereotyping Muslims as evil is just plain crazy.

[Emperor Pan I]

Originally Posted by Tipsy

I'm not talking about Muslims in the United States, which is extremely small (7 million out of 1.3 billion in the rest of the world) compared to the Middle East and rest of the world. The term 'Muslim/Islamic terrorist' is an oxymoron. Islam is a religion of peace. You might as well say that Hitler and Stalin represent Christianity by saying that Osama Bing Laden or terrorism represent Islam. All of these ideas such as Jihad which has basically come to represent Islamic terrorism attacking the world merely means 'the struggle to do the right thing'. You want to know what Islam is really suppose to be, just take a look at the five pillars (faith, daily prayers, almsgiving, self-purification through fasting, and pilgrimage to Mecca) and tell me that you see something talking about destroying the United States. If you really look at Islam it does not provoke violence. Just like I talk about reading the bible, you have to read the Quran the same way. Muslims are only allowed to attack in self defense, when another Islamic State has been attacked, or if a country is oppressing any (not only Muslims) of its own people. The Quran tells Muslims to never ever attack out of anger anytime in their life, not to hurt innocents, and to use the minimal amount of force possible. Tell me that this teaches to destroy the United States and the west. There is no way that anyone in the right mind could see Islam supports this terrorism. If you want to stereotype people in the Middle East another way then try to do so, but stereotyping Muslims as evil is just plain crazy.

The problem is they are fed the same "muslims and Islams are evil they want to kill the entire west" bullshit repeatedly. It's all the same, turn everyone against them and you have more justification to invade rape and kill then steal thier oil

[Bret]

Originally Posted by tipsy

Islam is a religion of peace.

Yeah, and Hilter was a Christian.
You tell me if your statement really holds any ground.

Originally Posted by Pan

The problem is they are fed the same "muslims and Islams are evil they want to kill the entire west" bullshit repeatedly. It's all the same, turn everyone against them and you have more justification to invade rape and kill then steal thier oil

Of yeah, we stole all their oil....
Thats why gas prices are high.
I don't even know how you can say that.
There is NO proof that it has ever happened.
And if we did, my check book isn't feeling the effects from it.

[Emperor Pan I]

Originally Posted by MrBret

Of yeah, we stole all their oil....
Thats why gas prices are high.
I don't even know how you can say that.
There is NO proof that it has ever happened.
And if we did, my check book isn't feeling the effects from it.

Then tell me then when the United States began designating companies to help rebuild Iraq, an oil company, owned by or has close ties to the President and Vice president where they would indirectly make a shitload of money becasue thier company is pretty much going to be in Iraq and will be the ones taking the oil and deciding what to do with it.

[Tipsy]

Originally Posted by MrBret

Yeah, and Hilter was a Christian.
You tell me if your statement really holds any ground.

First of all, if you bothered reading my post:
"...You might as well say that Hitler and Stalin represent Christianity by saying that Osama Bing Laden or terrorism represent Islam..."
then you would have seen that. If you want to take the worst example possible of a Muslim, or any type of ethnicity, religion, etc, and then stereotype everyone in that group as being like that then it is pretty naive. You might as well take the worst American in our entire history and say that every single one of us is exactly like him, just you are doing with the stereotype of 'Muslim terrorists'. As for my statement holding ground, considering it is the Muslim texts + Mohammad on my side, and your opinion on your side, then I think it holds quite a lot of ground.

[KillThePreppies]

I bet that Helba blockhead was the person who voted anarchist.

[coolnamepending]

I've found a quite interesting quiz at http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=no . It has a good array of questions and 18 results for political philosophies. According to this, I'm an Anarcho-Communist, so I voted communist on that thing, but don't be too quick to judge me as a pseudo-radical middle schooler who wants to piss off his history teacher. I don't agree with all of communism; I'm primarily considered a communist because of my belief in syndicalism, which most of you are probably familiar with, but for the rest of you, it is defined as A radical political movement that advocates bringing industry and government under the control of federations of labor unions by the use of direct action, such as general strikes and sabotage. I'm also considered a communist because I'm a bit skeptical of military actions and the state in general, and an anarchist because I put individual liberties above all other issues.

[B~E]

I didn't liked it. All the questions where either black or white. Its should have been more flexible and more extensive. =P