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12-06-2004, 09:01 PM
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| If the bible said Gays and Abortion was acceptable
would you agree with those rights? Since 2 people here probably reading right now have no other basis for their "opinions" then I would assume it would change their views considerably. | 
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12-06-2004, 09:05 PM
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| Well, since I'm like Pan and I think the Bible is a big fat book of myths and fairy tales created by man, I truly don't give two shits what the Bible says is and isn't acceptable, ebcause what it's really saying is that's what the person who wrote that part of the Bible thinks is acceptable and not acceptable.
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12-06-2004, 09:46 PM
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| If you don't realize what your saying i'll put it into proportion and then answer. In order for this 'Gays' and 'Abortion' to be acceptable the entire church and probably world would have be to completely different. What would have to happen is the entire definition of sex to the church would have to change and basically have not ruling on it whatsoever. For abortion to be acceptable the church would have to support cold blooded murder. If this was true I really think we'd be living in a sick and twisted world. And if this was taught by a prophet or such, it would probably be more of an anti-christ than a savior.
The answer to this question, if this was considered acceptable, Christainity, Judaism, and Islam would not be at all the religions they are today. As for me, I probably wouldn't be in the church if cold blooded murdered was considered morally right.
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12-06-2004, 09:48 PM
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| I think a better question is, if the Bible said it was alright, would the secular humanists want to try and ban it? Would the roles reverse?
As for me, I already believe we have the right for both.*
*See abortion thread for details.
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12-07-2004, 04:01 AM
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| I'm not saying either is right or wrong, but why do we get to decide what others do with their lives? If in the end we do go to heaven or hell and that is a deciding factor in whether or not they go to heaven, then it's their own fault, their own decision, and their own consequence. I myself am not gay, nor will I abort a child, but that doesn't mean I'm against either.
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12-07-2004, 05:04 AM
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| Keep abortions legal and available!
Equal rights for gays!!! (who cares if it's called marriage, let the Christians keep that word, call it Ultimate Transforming Union Omega)
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12-07-2004, 02:35 PM
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| If the bible at one point said that, i bet my left lung that the penholders would "lose" the sections that contained them.
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12-07-2004, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Edd_N If the bible at one point said that, i bet my left lung that the penholders would "lose" the sections that contained them. | For abortion, I would like to know how exactly you believe the bible could ever say that murder was not a sin, please englighten me. Even if you don't believe in God and don't really about religion even enough to look at it, you still know about the ten commandments. Tell me how exactly the 'penholders' could lose 'Thou shall not kill'. And to the church and I, you are not only killing, you are killing the most innocent of all.
Also, the 'penholders' would not be able to lose those parts of the bible for another reason. All of this takes place in the Old Testament, which means the 'penholders' would have to change both the Jewish Scriptures and the Quran.
Please explain to me your reasoning behind this massive would-be conspiracy that would engulf 3.3 billion people (2 billion Christain, 1.3 billion Muslim, 14 million Jews). Also, even if this was possible what gives you any idea that the Islamic community would work side by side with the Jewish community to change their holy scriptures.
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Keep abortions legal and available!
Equal rights for gays!!! (who cares if it's called marriage, let the Christians keep that word, call it Ultimate Transforming Union Omega)
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12-08-2004, 04:38 AM
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| Many people would change their mind about this if the bible said it was okay. It doesn't really matter to me, I don't think anyone can tell you you can't love someone or you can't do something to your own body.
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12-09-2004, 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Raven7 would you agree with those rights? Since 2 people here probably reading right now have no other basis for their "opinions" then I would assume it would change their views considerably. |
yep, and then you would assume that the person is brainwashed and cannont formulate their own opinons
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12-09-2004, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Tipsy Does this have anything at all to do with this post? | Absolutely not.
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