US education

[jd-inflames]

Don't be so offended, sir, I was merely teasing you

I personally hope we don't switch over. I'm rather happy with using both, the way we are.

[Forged]

I still don't understand celcius, so we beter not ****ing switch.

[TrongaMonga]

Well, Celsius is pretty simple, zero is the temperature of water freezing, 100 is when water goes into steam... Then you divide that differece by 100, and you got yourself Celsius degrees

Though I agree, US' superior education is very good.

[Lwek]

I know the metric system well. I just don't suceed in converting.
The better the education is in the USA, the higher the dropout rate is. Americans hate schools because they so called "have better things to do" like drugs, violece, and sex. Before we(I live in America) can raise the education system in the USA(which I already think we have with the no child left behind act) we need to decrease the other bad things little by little.

[thebastardsword]

isnt it something like

(5/9) * (fahrenheigt - 32)

?

[WildfireFX]

No it is easier for us to use our system because we are used to it and your thing says your from canada so why should you decide what type of measurement we use.

Because the rest of the world uses it too.

[Snagg]

Originally Posted by Kuzmich

You need it to be reformed. Only the fact that many of you think that all of Russia is in Asia already is saying a lot. And its not just students. Then i was in US i had a teacher who thought that way.

Anyways what do you think about education in US?

Stop assuming just because a teacher or two doesn't know that Russia is not all Asia, all US people are terribly educated and shit. Just shut teh **** up with that shit. Just because one Russian doesn't know how the capital of North Korea doesn't mean their education needs improvement. Get it? There are always going to be dumb****s out there, and I am afriad you are one of them.

Damn you are annoying. "Omg, an american teacher doesn't know that Russia is partly Europe too! This means all American teachers don't know shit!" Dude, there are always goign to be idiotic teachers.

[Sicloan]

The us education system is pretty good in my area. I am a decent student, get above average grades and will go do college next year.

Although i am kind of dissipointed in how they handle things at school, for one thier organization sucks, and kids get thrown around everywhere in different classes all year. So it really ****es up the system.

[Gedrin]

There are a few places where the american standard system or whatever it's called is useful.

In most cases however metric is far superior. For example converting between units can you tell me how many cups are in a gallon in under 5 seconds? All right try meters in a kilometer.

Or try the mass of a gallon of water at 4degrees C. I bet 90% of you don't even know what the unit for mass is off the top of your head (clue its a buglike creature). I can tell you the mass of water in a liter at 4 degrees C, it's very easy to remember.

All right now lets try this, a racecar moves 450 feet in 75 seconds what is its speed in mph? I could make a similar example in metric, but you get the point.

My point is that save for a few applications the "U.S. customry system" is archaic and as many have already pointed out it should be replaced by the far superior metric system.

Also in defence of the educational system here in america we have some excellent colleges.

I do agree though that there should be a reform of the high school system at the very least, and middle school should be reformed as well. Though when I was in it elementary school was okay, but not perfect.

Some of us still make it through to college though, and some of those go even further to graduate schools and medical schools. In a few years I hope to be one of them.

One thing is for sure, if I have the money when I have children I will find much better school than I went to.

[c9h13no3]

Originally Posted by Gedrin

Or try the mass of a gallon of water at 4degrees C. I bet 90% of you don't even know what the unit for mass is off the top of your head (clue its a buglike creature).

Slug, altho most engineers us pounds-mass, which let me tell you is bloody retarded. I can't even count on one hand the number of times I've screwed up calculations involving PSI (pounds-force per square inch). The pounds-force unit is really pounds-mass times 32.2 feet per second squared. But it's divided by the area in inches. Which makes from some pretty tricky stuff when you're trying to figure out the flow rate of some junk in a pipe. Not to mention crazy units like a "pound-mole".

Metric for lyfe yo.

[ecellis]

It must suck then, for all of you non-US residents, that we uneducated, metric using (at least not full time) americans are the only real superpower left on the planet! It must also suck to know that so many of your country's people move out of your country to ours. They are willing to switch to our measurements for a better life. Yes, America's education system does need some help! One thing is that better grades are given than what have been earned because school officials don't want to hurt the childs self esteem. That, I feel, is wrong! Kids that work hard should get better grades because of the effort they put into their work. The school officials don't think about the negative impact that giving the slackers the same grades as the good students is having on the good students. There are many things that need fixing, but I think that you could travel the world and see problems, to some extent, with each nations education system.

To all the Americans posting here - Many people bag on the US but that is just because they are unhappy with their own situation. Them bagging on someone else makes them feel better about themselves. Just pitty the poor fools and ignore their post, it is only their own shortcomings that make them lash out at us!

Have a great day!

[Kuzmich]

Dang, are you stupid or something? More people moving out of US then coming in (unless you count mexicans, but do you really want them?). As B~E posted somewhere a shitload of americans are moving to Canada right now. Also no you aren't the sole superpower, just because thats what you idiots call yourself doesn't really make it so.
I am happy with my life in Russia, maybe i am not as reach as some of you but hell do i have more freedom. I pitty you, being so dumb with such a bad education. No wonder 51 % of you voted for Bush.

It is not our "shortcomings" that make us lash at you, it is your own ignorance about, actually about alsmot everything.

[Undead Cheese]

Originally Posted by Kuzmich

but hell do i have more freedom.

ROFL

Originally Posted by Kuzmich

More people moving out of US then coming in

No?

Originally Posted by Kuzmich

As B~E posted somewhere a shitload of americans are moving to Canada right now.

Less than you'd think. It takes 4 years to get into Canada, and by then we'll be having elections again.

Originally Posted by Kuzmich

I pitty you, being so dumb with such a bad education.

Yeah... I can't believe 49% of us voted for Kerry. >_>

[Kuzmich]

Originally Posted by Undead Cheese

ROFL

Just another display of your ignorance

Originally Posted by Undead Cheese

No?

yes

Originally Posted by Undead Cheese

Yeah... I can't believe 49% of us voted for Kerry. >_>

Thats only because you are in those 51% of retards in america who voted for Bush.

[dreamcrusader]

Well, the only problem I have with my education is the potheads that can go to an "alternative" school, do shit, and get the same diploma that I worked my ass of for.

@ Kuzmich. Actually im perrty happy alot of Americans are going to Canada. There liberal ways drive them to abandon their country. Hell if any one of you guys plans on going to Canada because of the election Ill help you pack. We dont need that type of ilk in this country

[Tipsy]

Because the metric system is just easier to use. It makes more sense. I know americans like to be patriotic for no reason (ex: a measurement system) but jeeze, give it up!

The metric system is easier to use, it has been noted by scientists, also a reason why American scientists do use the metric system. This is a fact, there is no debating this.

They don;t teach you enough.

If you are refering to the metric system, in my school atleast, it is hammered into our heads in 8th grade Integrated science + 10th grade Chemistry (and AP Chem if you get there). They teach, most kids just don't want to learn it.

The thing I think Americans should really change is the measurement system, that, I agree. Because it will avoid accidents like the ones that already happened in some rockets. Don't know if you guys know, but when NASA scientists make the calculations, they use the metric system (the international science system), and when they order the parts to American companies, they have to convert it. And, sometimes, they just blow the hell out of the rocket because of one slight mistake.

If we (America) do change our measurement system, it will most likely be to the ISS, not the metric system (And yes, there is a difference between the metric system and the ISS). Also, that problem is more specifically due to the computer programmers who checked over all of the software and didn't catch it.

Thats bullshit. Everything west of Urals is europe learn some geography then come back.

Actually, to quote the actual world fact book:
"Location:
Northern Asia (that part west of the Urals is included with Europe), bordering the Arctic Ocean, between Europe and the North Pacific Ocean "
The link:
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/rs.html

america is turning towards metric.. in school i havent been taught anything about our standard system for years. i know metric better than our standard system. in all science classes HUGE emphasis is put on the metric system. dont give me this bullshit about america being too patriotic to use metric or something.

the only reason most americansxaremore familiar with the standard system is coz we learned it first, before school from our parents. i use miles, inches and feet, gallon, but thats all i really know of our standard system.

i use the metric for science coz its 10 times easier to do math with. standard system is just how we talk (go up the road for about 5 miles then youll see the placeon the left... im 6 foot tall ect.)

The metric system is taught in later grades because it is assumed that you already know our system.

Standerdized test will be the downfall of american education. We as students are being taught the test as opposed to being taught....

Sadly that does happen at alot of schools.

isnt it something like

(5/9) * (fahrenheigt - 32)

Whats the point of using celcius if you have to switch it to farenheit to understand it? I say its for example 80 degrees farenheit outside, I will know what that means, but if someone says its 18 degrees celcius i'll be pullin out my calculator.

There are a few places where the american standard system or whatever it's called is useful.

In most cases however metric is far superior. For example converting between units can you tell me how many cups are in a gallon in under 5 seconds? All right try meters in a kilometer.

I'd prefer switching to the ISS over the metric system, because that is even more "math friendly".

It must suck then, for all of you non-US residents, that we uneducated, metric using (at least not full time) americans are the only real superpower left on the planet! It must also suck to know that so many of your country's people move out of your country to ours. They are willing to switch to our measurements for a better life. Yes, America's education system does need some help! One thing is that better grades are given than what have been earned because school officials don't want to hurt the childs self esteem. That, I feel, is wrong! Kids that work hard should get better grades because of the effort they put into their work. The school officials don't think about the negative impact that giving the slackers the same grades as the good students is having on the good students. There are many things that need fixing, but I think that you could travel the world and see problems, to some extent, with each nations education system.

Actually I think this is more of a the school doesn't want bad grades to ruin their image, or so it is in many of the ivy league schools.

I am happy with my life in Russia, maybe i am not as reach as some of you but hell do i have more freedom. I pitty you, being so dumb with such a bad education. No wonder 51 % of you voted for Bush.

It is not our "shortcomings" that make us lash at you, it is your own ignorance about, actually about alsmot everything

I'm guessing your calling my education bad since I voted for bush. And also can you come up with a new word, you use "ignorance" in every other post.

No?

yes

Can one of you two find a credible source to back yourself up, I don't know anything about if the immigration rates are positive or negative, and I would like to know.

Thats only because you are in those 51% of retards in america who voted for Bush

Oh, I guess you were calling me a retard then.

Overall for American school, many do need to be improved. Bush is trying to improve our education and has said himself they need to be improved. The no child left behind did cause some positive effects, but not the the extent of what it was suppose to. Bush said he is going to try to improve the no child left behind and improve education throughout the United States. Regardless of whether or not our school systems suck, they are improving.

[Venice_native]

Even if 51% of our country was wrong...atleast we have a choice.

[B~E]

Originally Posted by Undead Cheese

Less than you'd think. It takes 4 years to get into Canada, and by then we'll be having elections again.

Actualy, it take 12 months.

Originally Posted by Tipsy

Overall for American school, many do need to be improved. Bush is trying to improve our education and has said himself they need to be improved. The no child left behind did cause some positive effects, but not the the extent of what it was suppose to. Bush said he is going to try to improve the no child left behind and improve education throughout the United States. Regardless of whether or not our school systems suck, they are improving.

I'm not really knowledgable on the true state of your education, beside such stereotype like the american impotence vis-a-vis history and geography, but I was wondering this : the diction of your post seem to indicate that Bush did close to nothing in the four years concerning education and the "no child being act". Why is it that he failed to do much in four years, and what exactly make you believe that he will do anything in the four next years ?

[B~E]

delete the post please*

[Kuzmich]

Originally Posted by Tipsy

Actually, to quote the actual world fact book:
"Location:
Northern Asia (that part west of the Urals is included with Europe), bordering the Arctic Ocean, between Europe and the North Pacific Ocean "
The link:
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/rs.html

Actually you're an idiot. You just prooved me right, as i said everything west of Urals is in Europe meaning that i live in Europe, meaning that Russia is located on both continents Europe and Asia. Also our European part is larger then most European countries.