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Old 10-14-2004, 12:18 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Minny, that's an American site, so, you kinda ruined everything

Punk basicly said it all, you can't say that the American Education System sucks because you don't know if Russia has a part on Europe or not.

I don't think anyone in any country ever learns that. I knew that for my own. Who actually cares if Moscow is in Europe, or not. It is an Asian country, because a really big most of it is in Asia.

mesiahofpenguins, asking someone if your educational system is good without using proper grammar and ponctuation won't take you anywhere...

The thing I think Americans should really change is the measurement system, that, I agree. Because it will avoid accidents like the ones that already happened in some rockets. Don't know if you guys know, but when NASA scientists make the calculations, they use the metric system (the international science system), and when they order the parts to American companies, they have to convert it. And, sometimes, they just blow the hell out of the rocket because of one slight mistake.
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Old 10-14-2004, 01:47 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Thank you Bongo, you took the words right out of my mouth Which is exactly what I was trying to get to Kuzmich last night.

We say it's an asian country because...well...it is. Why not say that those US providences closer to Cuba and Mexico aren't Mexican? Because they part of a bigger country. I know that isn't really the same beings it is split over countries instead of continents, but still. Kinda like saying Alaska is part of Canada

I know the US education system is garbage, but that doesn't make us stupid. We learn most of our information from other sources, at least I have.

As far as the Metric system, we still use SAE because it is something that all americans already know very well and use. No reason to change something that works. BUT, that doesn't mean that we don't know metric. Every american is required to have an understanding of that system as well before they can graduate. And while metric is easier to negate, it's still not what we have grown up seeing. If you come to america and look around in some states, they give exits on the freeway with both SAE and metric conversions, so it's not like we completely disregard the system.
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Old 10-14-2004, 02:20 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Why should we be like the rest of the world with the metric system? And (not needed) I don't see whats wrong with are (our) education the only problem it has is(that in a) small school like the one I got (have) to get crap for money from the government but my friend in (not sure why thats here) lives in an area where a lot of people got (that go) to his school have a reallt (spelling) nice school , have more language classes, and more elective but otherwise I don't see whats so bad about our education system.(new sentence)the(not sure why this word is here) even at my school that is low on funds and cutting tachers (spelling) and so on have many intelligent people .(new sentence) it's not how good your school system is, it's how much you want to learn
even with all the errors i fixed, that is one horrendous paragraph.
that is a perfect example of whats wrong with the american education system.

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just read through the rest of the thread and i am actually surprised to hear that the metric system is even mentioned in american schools.
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Old 10-14-2004, 02:52 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Russia Geography
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Location Northern Asia

Continent: Asia

Geographic coordinates 60 00 N, 100 00 E

Map references Asia

Area total:17,075,200 sq km
land:16,995,800 sq km
water:79,400 sq km

Area - comparative slightly less than 1.8 times the size of the US

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Thats bullshit. Everything west of Urals is europe learn some geography then come back.

@JD: You were saying that all of Russia was Asian, i prooved to you that it wasn't yet you still disagree with me.
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Old 10-14-2004, 02:55 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Even with all the errors I fixed, that is one horrendous paragraph.
That is a perfect example of what's wrong with the american education system.

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Just read through the rest of the thread and I am actually surprised to hear that the metric system is even mentioned in american schools.
Practice what you preach, friend That is only punctuation and caps.

As for us learning metric in school, why be surprised? We still use it much more than you think. We use CM in our rulers, we use meter sticks, and a lot of things we measure in metric instead of SAE. Some things are easier some ways, some things are easier in others.

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Kuzmich, you really make a big deal out of such trivial things...I've already told you what I believe in the geographical location of Russia, and I even reiterated it in this thread. Allow the "stupid" kids to think what they want That's what makes the smart people smarter.
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But can you show with your hands how big one meter is? I mean do you have an understanding of how big is a meter, or how heavy is a killogram?
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No, but can you show how big an inch is with your fingers? I can measure inches by eye, and I can meazure ounces using my hand (poor drug knowlege =/) Speaking of drug knowlege, there are a lot of dealers who know EXACTLY how heavy a kilogram is Sadly, I can measure a gram with my hand too =/
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america is turning towards metric.. in school i havent been taught anything about our standard system for years. i know metric better than our standard system. in all science classes HUGE emphasis is put on the metric system. dont give me this bullshit about america being too patriotic to use metric or something.

the only reason most americansxaremore familiar with the standard system is coz we learned it first, before school from our parents. i use miles, inches and feet, gallon, but thats all i really know of our standard system.

i use the metric for science coz its 10 times easier to do math with. standard system is just how we talk (go up the road for about 5 miles then youll see the placeon the left... im 6 foot tall ect.)

for anything more detailed i use metric coz its more math freindly
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Old 10-14-2004, 08:48 PM   #29 (permalink)
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My dealings with the US education system have indeed been bullshit. I don't think anecdotal evidence has much of a place in debate though.
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No it is easier for us to use our system because we are used to it
You are wrong.

But getting away from that arguement, our primary schooling is pretty crappy, unless you go to a magnet school. Our university system is quite strong tho.
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But can you show with your hands how big one meter is? I mean do you have an understanding of how big is a meter, or how heavy is a killogram?
I could tell you ruffly how big a meter is, and I know a killogram is 2.2 pounds. Between heavy drug use and chemistry I know the metric system...
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Sad how us americans know metric due to drugs =/
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I'll break the chain then; I know the metric system, and I have never used drugs.
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I could tell you ruffly how big a meter is, and I know a killogram is 2.2 pounds. Between heavy drug use and chemistry I know the metric system...
Well you are in college, are you not? And we are talking about public education.
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I don't think he is just yet...if he is, he's a freshmen. I should be a sophmore right now, and I know for a fact that I'm older than Forged by a good year ><
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Well you are in college, are you not? And we are talking about public education.
No, I do not start college untill next year, and for most of my life (and now again) I have been subjected to public education.
I am not defending it, it sucks.
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You need it to be reformed. Only the fact that many of you think that all of Russia is in Asia already is saying a lot. And its not just students. Then i was in US i had a teacher who thought that way.

Anyways what do you think about education in US?
its crap?

i was talking with my grandma the other day and she said that the schools in the town that she lived in were given an satlike test last fall over essentials they should know.(these are 2nd graders, forgot to say) well anyways, just about all the kids failed and the people that gave the tests went back and went through what the kids were taught, they were taught about diversity...what the hell!? i mean its good and all to tolerate other peoples but the kids still need to learn about essentials.

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Standerdized test will be the downfall of american education. We as students are being taught the test as opposed to being taught....

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I am way more intelligent that my mother, my stepdad doesn't have the time to teach me....
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I am way more intelligent that my mother, my stepdad doesn't have the time to teach me....
i agree with the first part
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thats not how my friends were homeschooled they had textbooks that public school kids had and would go in a few times a week to get help if need be. One of them live on a farm...yet at their sophomore year, my senior year work seems pathetic...im take precalc, they take calc...its kind of annoying, especialy since they only have school for like 3 hours on average
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Practice what you preach, friend That is only punctuation and caps.
i didn't use an apostrophe and failed to capitalize the pronoun "i", along with the first words in my sentences..... what other spelling faux pas' was your superior intellect able to find? the fact you started your sentence with the words "that is only", denotes that you found more mistakes other than the aforementioned 2. oh wise and majestic lord of the english language, please share with me a fraction of your vast knowledge so that i may someday become an accomplished wordsmith such as yourself.
check all my other posts... i rarely, if ever capitalize.
compared to what mesiahofpenguins wrote, my 4 sentences were pulitzer material.

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As for us learning metric in school, why be surprised? We still use it much more than you think. We use CM in our rulers, we use meter sticks, and a lot of things we measure in metric instead of SAE. Some things are easier some ways, some things are easier in others.
i'm surprised because the united states, liberia, and burma are the only countries in the world who don't use it exclusively. i figured if you haven't switched yet, you never will.
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