All people who say God doesn't exist are weak minded.

[Tipsy]

Originally Posted by l33t 0n3

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You people assume all fanatics but you are wrong. Again, self centered, ignorant, intolerant, and stupid.


Where did I say that?
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I'm talking about catholics in general

-- I have no time to read all that bs --

I doubt that the 50-100 AD book is the same as what we read today, and 0.02% of priests is still a lot of kids f**ked in the ass. I'm harsh on this because one of the priests at my old church was transferred there for molestation, so I left and dropped religion, bout time anyways. As for your thing about europe, I'm mostly talking about the fact that the world is not the center of the universe, and from what it sounds like, you're calling it a prooven fact, read my entire post next time. The catholic church were the people doing that BS, learn your history.

1) And they are the same books except translated, different version come from different people translating the bible. Other than translations it is virtually the same.
2) I don't know if the church invented the idea of the center of the universe, but the point is many, many, many have called false theories scientific law even though there is no proof. You said the catholics for having one false theory made a scientific law makes them "stupid assholes", I am just showing you that it wasn't just the church that did that.
3) I'm sorry to hear your dropping a belief in God because of a man's free will.
4) Learn my history? You have stated nothing except opinion and subtle insults. There is a reason this is a forum for debating (so you can debate).
5) Why bother posting if you won't read a thread?

Also, forgot to add this in the other post, but the 50 - 100 is the gospels.

[thebastardsword]

i would like to add that the hebrew people had and still do have a strong oral tradition, so what is in the old testament may have been tradition for MANY years before they were actually written...dont you agree tipsy?

[cxoli]

To add, Catholics are the dumbasses who thought the world was the center of the universe. What stupid assholes, with no proof, they come up with the assumption that they are the center of the universe. They burned and cursed all who spoke against their beliefs for 200 years or so.

As for your thing about europe, I'm mostly talking about the fact that the world is not the center of the universe, and from what it sounds like, you're calling it a prooven fact, read my entire post next time. The catholic church were the people doing that BS, learn your history.

The geocentric model of our solar system was accepted by all astronomers (e.g. Greeks, Muslims, and Christians) for 1400 years up to the 16th century. This system is also known as the Ptolemaic System (I have never read anything about Ptolemy being Christian). It was accepted at the time because it explained the movements of the stars and planets so accurately that when Copernicus proposed a heliocentric view in 1543, it wasn't as accurate as Ptolemy's geocentric model. Just wanted to clear that up.

Religion is a cover, a means for a person to feel secure about himself. It is something that some individuals need to feel purpose in life.

Eh, I don't know my purpose in life, and it doesn't really bother me. Maybe I'll find my purpose eventually, but I'm not waiting to be "called by God." I am quite secure the way I am right now, thank you

For one, the bible was not written and generalized for thousands of years, it was a freaking fable until people published it, and only recently there was a general version, so in the end, only the general point of the story remains, most of it is made up or exagerated.

Who cares if the stories are true or if the translations are different, as long as the meaning is the same. The "general point of the story" seems like the most important part to me.

[Static]

To some people there is a certain point in thier life where they just break down and just start seeing things differently. I did that and now my life is doing fine in retrospect to what fine may be to a certain person.

Whatever the "afterlife" if there is even one will bring. Lets get ready to go head first then fall right back down and laugh about it

[c9h13no3]

Wow, I must have really struck a chord with this thread .

Proves my point even farther .

[Static]

If you have proven something with me, i wouldn't think to much of it.

[Tipsy]

Who cares if the stories are true or if the translations are different, as long as the meaning is the same. The "general point of the story" seems like the most important part to me.

What cxoli is saying is exactly how the bible should be taken. I'll repeat it again just because some people don't seem to get it. Should the bible be taken literally? No. Is the bible historically accurate? No. Then what is it? It is the "epic" of the Jewish culture. Could it have changed over the time that it was first told from one guy to another orally? Yes. Does it matter? No. It is as the quoote says above, the "genera" point of the story" that matters. It is waht the story teaches you is what is important.

Wow, I must have really struck a chord with this thread .

Proves my point even farther .

I still don't see how saying people who don't believe in God are weak minded. All the proof of theists or athiests being weak minded has been an argument like "Your weak minded for not believing in God." Then a response of "Oh no we aren't your are weak minded for believing in God". Then a response of "Oh no we aren't you are", and so on. All I have seen is many false accusations attacking theists or atheists of being weak minded. I am a Roman Catholic and I believe in God. Do I believe that atheists are weak minded? No, I believe that they just have different values in their life.

[tskaze]

Originally Posted by c9h13no3

Wow, I must have really struck a chord with this thread .

Proves my point even farther .

yes.. athiests are weak minded because they argue against you. that makes great sense :susp

[mesiahofpenguins]

I am christian and I totally disagree with this thread the people aren't weak minded because they disagree.