All people who say God doesn't exist are weak minded.

[Kuzmich]

he was protecting his family, his freinds, or maybe he just wanted to make sure, he was after all raised as a christian, although i don't see how this has any relation to god not existing, darwin was just one man, he palyed a major part, but others played a big one also.

[B)ushid(o]

Originally Posted by Kuzmich

They based B.C., A.D. thing on the bible, A.D, B.C. thing was creted somethere in 15th century. All the rest of the stuff, is just you making assumptions on something that you think i said. Alright thats what i really said, Jews started the whole thing, their God was named Iahve, and blah, blah, blah. Then Jews had to move around the world and eventually it split into Judaism, Christianity and Islam. THen romans became Chrisitans and speard it across all of the western world. Thats why most western countries are christian, because of the romans.Hope this explains it to you.

No. The B.C/A.D thing was originally made for the Julian Calendar in the early days of the Church, around 300-500 A.D. Pope Gregory adopted it for his calendar since he is Christian after all.

[Kuzmich]

Actually no, Julian calendar is different from the one we use todaay. I didn't read much about this stuff for along time now, maybe i should go refresh my memory, you might be right, but i do know for sure that Julian calendar is different from one we got right now.

[B)ushid(o]

Yeah, the Julian calendar is different, but B.C/A.D was made for it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar

look at the bottom where it says "year numbering".

[Kuzmich]

Alright, my mistake.

[jd-inflames]

This thread is so ignorant, I didn't bother to do anything but skim it. Your religion has nothing to do with how open or closed minded you are, or how weak or strong your mind is either. It's just what you believe. Now quit alienating people for their beliefs, for if anyone is weak minded here, it is the one who believe that the only thing right in the world are their own beliefs. Open your eyes to the bigger picture...

[Forged]

First of all how could they make B.C. without jesus are you saying that some people just made a wild guess and said hey the savior of the human race was just born and if religion was created because of the jewish thing then the whole rest of the bible was just fabricated and you say all religion was created from that incedent well the jewish people were religious to so you say the belief in god was created after some people were freed even though they already belived in god no one believed in god till after they were freed and still what do you have to say about the darwin thing

Deciphering this peace of shit you call a pargraph is going to be hard, but I will take a shot at it.

First of all how could they make B.C. without jesus

The Christian world ruled Europe the mecca of activity for 100's of years. No one is saying jesus didn't exist, only that he was no saviour.

if religion was created because of the jewish thing

There were many other and older religons than judaism.

the bible was just fabricated

The bible is to hypocritical, and the god of said bible is to big of a dick to ever be considered real in my book.

about the darwin

Darwin didn't release his book "The Orgin of Species" untill later in life, the only person who knew about it before this was his wife. He did this because the church still had a major influnce on culture. If Darwin renounced his theory (which I have never seen, but I am reading a biography on him atm) it was only because he didn't want to turn into another galileo.

why does the bible trace back so far

There are plenty of old religous text, and they are all just as full of shit as the bible. Out of curiousty are you a YEC?

[thebastardsword]

Originally Posted by jd-inflames

This thread is so ignorant, I didn't bother to do anything but skim it. Your religion has nothing to do with how open or closed minded you are, or how weak or strong your mind is either. It's just what you believe. Now quit alienating people for their beliefs, for if anyone is weak minded here, it is the one who believe that the only thing right in the world are their own beliefs. Open your eyes to the bigger picture...

i agree 100%, you cant measure someones mind by asking what religion they are. thank god some people on this forum have an open mind

[Tempest Storm]

He didn't say it right after he made the theory or at some normal part in his life he said it when he was dieing why would he care what the thought about him when he was dead.

The deathbed recanting arguement is a load of bullshit. Even YEC websites warn against using it.

He died a believer in Evolution.

[mesiahofpenguins]

wtf is a yec

[WildfireFX]

Lmao, you think I have low intelligence because I don't believe in god? No, it's quite the opposite.

Who made god? If we need a creator, then so does he. Religion doesn't match up right with common sense (it also doesn't match up with science- which unlike god is a reality).

[mesiahofpenguins]

Science doesn't match up with common sense either. If monkeys turned into man there would be missing links every where but we haven't found any missing links yet have we? If evolution is true why aren't there new species popping up all the time?

[Kuzmich]

Science is common sense. Religion is bullshit and fairy tales.

[WildfireFX]

Your example of evolution makes sense.
Some may not believe science either.

However, I do not believe evolution explains why we are here either, that simply explains what we used to be. Religion is.. not something I would want to live my life by.

[mesiahofpenguins]

wildfire i'm glad you put it that way I don't get mad when people say they don't belive in god I get mad when people like kuzmich call religion bullshit I don't care that much if you don't belive in religion but I do care when you say religion is absolutely fake there is no possible way it is true it's total BS

[Kuzmich]

Actually there is a possible way for religion being bullshit, that reason being that it is bullshit.

[cxoli]

This thread is so ignorant, I didn't bother to do anything but skim it. Your religion has nothing to do with how open or closed minded you are, or how weak or strong your mind is either. It's just what you believe. Now quit alienating people for their beliefs, for if anyone is weak minded here, it is the one who believe that the only thing right in the world are their own beliefs. Open your eyes to the bigger picture...

I agree....Everyone has beliefs, but that doesn't mean any one person is right.

People who believe in God are close minded, they can't open themselves to a possiblity of everything being created by nature rather then some higher being. If you proove with scientific facts that God exists, then atheists will believe you, if you proove with scientific facts that God doesn't exist then religious people still won't believe you. Religious people are closed minded because there is only one possibility they consider and that possibility does not meet with neither facts or logic. I am talking about deeply religious people here.

If you prove to me with scientific facts that God does not exist, I will gladly renounce everything I believe in and accept what you say as truth. I have already considered both possibilities and know that if there could be a God, than there could obviously also not be a God. I don't see how that's being close-minded whereas you saying that God absolutely does not exist is not.

I can say whatever i want. IF there can be no logical proove of Gods existance, and there are many prooves in the Bible itself that he doesn't exist, then yes i can say that there is no supreme being.

You can say whatever you want, but that doesn't make it true. That applies whether or not you believe in God.

Does thast make me weak minded?

No. Does living doing what I feel is right make me weak-minded?

No, it just means that my mind is strong enough for it to not have to believe ina supreme being to cmpensate for its weakness, it has no weakness.

If you think most Christians believe in God "to compensate for weakness," you are sadly mistaken.

[c9h13no3]

You guys run around saying that God, logically, doesn't exist.

So humor me.

Tell me an experiment by which you can prove that God doesn't exist.

[N[U]TS]

Originally Posted by Kuzmich

Science is common sense. Religion is bullshit and fairy tales.

kinda funny that priests used science to better understand how things happened. :dance

[Biske]

Originally Posted by WildfireFX

Who made god? If we need a creator, then so does he. Religion doesn't match up right with common sense (it also doesn't match up with science- which unlike god is a reality).

Not neccasarily true. We were created in His image, but not exactly like Him. Can you fathom that we will never be able to understand all there is, if any about God Himself? Have you ever stopped and tried to think about that? Since we are created beings, and we live so short lives, we experaince a beginning and an end. To think otherwise is simply out of our reach, we can't imagine it. Common sence doesn't equate here. It's not a factor. Who are we to say He exists or He doesn't? And you actually put faith into science? True, it's physical, we can see it, work it, use it, but it's been so wrong for so long - it's built on things men have thought were true, and slowly, we've found out otherwise. Being imperfect, Science is also fundamentally flawed. No use putting faith into anything Humans do, you're only setting yourself up for disappointment.