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Old 09-02-2004, 12:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How do you become Gay/Lesbian?

Me and this girl I work with got into a debate about how you become Gay/Lesbian.

She says "your born gay and you figure it out as you get older."

I say, "It all as to do with your lifestyle as you grow up. I mean if your raped as a young girl, you may never want to have sex with a man again. So you become lesbian."

What do you guys/girls think?
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Old 09-02-2004, 12:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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its both, my moms manager, was raised with only his mom and his sisters and eventually turned out a homosexual....

it is because that u were born ghey and u cant fix it, like rossie o'donnel's partner...... she knew she was ghey at the first place but never told anyone...
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Old 09-02-2004, 01:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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you aren't born gay you choose to be gay
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Old 09-02-2004, 01:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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You wouldn't happen to have any evidence supporting that rediculous claim, would you?

Homosexuality has many causes. Studies have proven that genetics are responsible for some gays. The child abuse theory is also a factor (though an extremely rare one one making up a very small percentage of gays). Some ppl are gay because of the how they were raised. And I'm sure there are plenty of other reasons.

However, it's generally agreed upon by the sexual and mental health community that homosexuality is rarely ever reversable and that Reparative Therapy is a barbaric and inneffective procedure.
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Old 09-02-2004, 04:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Sorry, had to.

Btw, you become gay by having sex with a person(s) of the same sex.

Notice the "(s)"...... I like "(s)".........

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Old 09-02-2004, 05:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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What do you guys/girls think?
I think i'm tired of this debate. I know many gay people and have gay family members, and i'm tired of people questioning them. So shut the **** up.
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Old 09-02-2004, 05:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Im not questioning gay people or their choices. But thats exactly what I think it is, a choice. I have gay friends too.
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Old 09-02-2004, 06:04 PM   #8 (permalink)
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All people have gay friends in gay debates.
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Old 09-03-2004, 12:35 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I agree with Zsquared completely. The "your born gay" is a lame excuse to take sympthy.

I mean cmon, when your 6 girls arnt attractive. You think they have "cudies"(member that word?) But later you fall in love with them and look at nude pics of them lol. I think if you live a deppresing lifestyle and are treated badly you increase your chances.
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Old 09-03-2004, 01:15 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Yeah, because 10% of the world is gay- that's a lot of people buddy.

And please... your "sympathy"? I don't think they even want it. Face the facts. Nobody is "turned" gay. They are born that way.

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I mean if your raped as a young girl, you may never want to have sex with a man again. So you become lesbian.
Let me ask you a question- are you born straight or did you turn straight after a man raped you and you never wanted to have sex with another man? See how that sounds? Well that's basically what you people are saying. Besides that, do you know the statistics for sexually abused women in north america? If that were the case, many more women would be lesbian.

Grow up, it's a real shame. Accept people for who they are and stop making egotistical theories about their lives. Who cares? It's not your life, so keep your goddamn nose out of it alright?

Ignorance pisses me off. I bet none of you have even really looked into this before making your assumptions.

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Old 09-03-2004, 09:01 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Yeah, because 10% of the world is gay- that's a lot of people buddy.

And please... your "sympathy"? I don't think they even want it. Face the facts. Nobody is "turned" gay. They are born that way.


Let me ask you a question- are you born straight or did you turn straight after a man raped you and you never wanted to have sex with another man? See how that sounds? Well that's basically what you people are saying. Besides that, do you know the statistics for sexually abused women in north america? If that were the case, many more women would be lesbian.

Grow up, it's a real shame. Accept people for who they are and stop making egotistical theories about their lives. Who cares? It's not your life, so keep your goddamn nose out of it alright?

Ignorance pisses me off. I bet none of you have even really looked into this before making your assumptions.

Lol come on dude.

Ignorance is Bliss.

First of all I dislike gay people due too there "choices", so therefore I have no Gay friends.

You proved you idiocy when you made this statment, "Face the facts. Nobody is "turned" gay. They are born that way."

I know not everybody is born gay, I think the ones who say they are use it as an excuse to fit in. Your not born gay, you dont know anything when your born. So how would you know you like men.

Oh and a response to your question, If I was raped by a man, I definitaly would become super straight from that point on. Also mabey take Karate and pack some heat, but thats besides the point.

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Its like saying your hetrosexual from birth. And why would you want to be a hetro. I suppose it just happens. i suppose they make their image on what they want to be with.

Gays are like vegans. People who made wierd choices but live by them. I find no problem as long as they don't try to recruite me.
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You become gay by sticking your penis in an orifice of another human with a penis. Lesbians are the same except it's vagina.
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Old 09-03-2004, 11:53 AM   #14 (permalink)
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You can't stick vaginas into vaginas tbh.
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you cant freak out and start cutting yourself everytime you break up with someone. i know some very stable girls, but alot are not stable at all. they need to toughen up. thats all there is to it. i dont care why they cut themselves. that is unneeded information. my whole point is that if they cant handle the world then they need to toughen up, coz it aint gonna get any easier for them. and they will eventually learn that cutting yourself really doesnt do ANYTHING to actually solve the problem. all it does is makes you more depressed thinking your life is so shitty. im sick of this bullshit. people start cutting themselves coz"their life sucks" then they add that to their list of reasons why their life sucks. MAYBE IF YOU DONT PITY YOURSELF SO ****ING MUCH YOU WONT BE SAD
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First of all I dislike gay people due too there "choices", so therefore I have no Gay friends.
Well then I feel sorry for you, you're limiting your life just because of homophobia. That's like saying "I don't like chinese/black/white people, so therefore I have none of them as my friends." Why does their sexuality effect a friendship? It doesn't, you need to stop sheltering yourself from the real world.

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It's probably a combination of both...
I think homophobia is kind of idiotic, like racism or something.
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I dont like gay people. Their sick. Plain and simple. Their way of life goes agianst everything ive ever been taught in the bible
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Let me ask you a question- are you born straight or did you turn straight after a man raped you and you never wanted to have sex with another man? See how that sounds? Well that's basically what you people are saying. .
Actually your instincts tell you to be attracted by woman so in theory you are born straight, if you for some reason go against your instincts and are not atracted by woman, then you are gay, it could be for many reasons or just beacuse you want it. and sry for myt spelling im just learning english.
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Process to become gay:
1) Get born
2) Grow (optional)
3) Introspection (optional)
4) figure out that you aren't aroused at all by (wo)men (optional)
5) you are gay!

The reasons that some of those are optional, is because sometimes it needs no self-exploration. For an example, a co-worker of mine said that he had always been gay. He never really questioned it, and his parents weren't the type to freak out if he "came out," so he's always been "out." Thus, he just is gay, the way some people are straight.

Edit: Also, for a gay male, (by the sexual abuse conjecture) to "turn gay," wouldn't he have to be raped by a woman? And how many people are raped by women? Certenly less then are gay, I'd wager.
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Well then I feel sorry for you, you're limiting your life just because of homophobia. That's like saying "I don't like chinese/black/white people, so therefore I have none of them as my friends." Why does their sexuality effect a friendship? It doesn't, you need to stop sheltering yourself from the real world.
No, your putting words in my mouth. I dont hate everyone, just gay males. I dont dislike them because of there race. I dislike them becuase i dont age with there choice. Its like saying no to pot, but im sayin no to gay people, and by makin this choice I dont feel like I'm missing out at all.

You said why does sexuality effect a friendship... I think it would considering I'm not gay and I'm not gonna hang out with a gay male for fun. I like girls he like men. Im a man, I'm not gonna hang with another guy who likes guys.


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I belive I know how to type..... also you have nothing to back your statement.


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I dont like gay's period.
I dont want a guy lookng at me ever in any sexual way, period.
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