fankrein 9/11

[Kuzmich]

My freind came from US today, and he brought with him a video of a movie fankrein 9/11. Its a great movie, there are many facts told about Bush that were kept down by his administration. Go see it, its a US movie, i am no sure if i got the name right. I can't type much right now, i will continue this tommorow, things that movie tells you will amaze you and make you hate Bush.

[Roach Of Discord]

Fankrein?

[aphextwin]

i think its farenheit........ but anyways it was out a while ago........

[Dark Blade]

Haha fankrein... Besides a lot of that movie is just opinion.

[aphextwin]

yea.......... only from one point of view based......... its not a good movie at all

[Kuzmich]

Most of it is facts, like for example the guy who called fox and said that Bush won the state of Florida and the election was Bush's relative, and there was a woman who owned a company that was counting votes, they took of some votes that were in favor of Gore, and then Gore went to supreme court he lost the case, because all of the supreme court judges are the freinds of Bush's daddy. Maybe you just wanna stay ignorant about the whole Iraq thing, they showed the happy Iraqies living their lives before US came, and then they showed bodies of innocent people killed in explosions, most were children. Alkayda is not in Iraq its in Afghanistan, and you know why Bush attacked Iraq and not Afghanistan, because he planned to build a pipe line through that country, US send 4000 troops to Afghanistan, installed a new president, and left, new president was also working in the company Bush have owned. There is also that oil trading company there Bush and his father are both investers, so was Alkayda until 2001, that company won from 9/11 cause their main business was united defense, which is making of weapons, and supplying the army. There is one trillion Saudi investions in US economy. Watch that movie people.

[Guru]

some people are too easily manipulated by the movie industry and can't realize for themselves the difference between a mans opinion and what really happened

[Kuzmich]

He showed a document and a tape, its not really an opinion, more of a fact. He just traced down the people who were involved. Like you can't deny that Alkayda has invested in same company Bush invested, thats a fact it can be prooved. Same with the guy who called fox was Bush relative, same with Afghanistan and its president, same with everything.

[SouLess]

I could have a tape of my flying with the help of strings and such, and have the strings edited out. That doesn't mean I can fly.

[evilblanket]

what a great movie to cause such debate.

here's my stance: if 50% of that movie is truth, then shouldnt that be enough to warrant RESEARCHING that info for your own good? All you blinda$$ republicans need to open your fricking eyes to reality. that reality is the fact that you represent the elitist blue blood CEO bullsh*t of society that walks on the backs of the poor.

I hate repubicans. I dislike democrats, but I HATE republicans.

[Kuzmich]

The thing is if this movie was telling lies then it would get sued by everyone involved or mentioned in it, and it was not sued, so think.

[Iliaran]

you can't take what moore says at face value. The movie was SUPPOSED to make president bush look like a dumbass...and it sorta did. Most of moore's points were based on simple rhetoric alone (just think of all the speculation moore does in the elementary school scene)...the other half of the movie was based on appeals to human emotion by stirring up cognitive dissonance (think of the whole soldiers suffering in iraq thing).

...and the whole united defense thing and 'links' to Al Qaeda (try learning to spell, Otmorozok)...i personally thought that the links were far to distant...far too insubstantial to merit any real concern.

...and so what if Bush's family has ties with the Saudi royal family? The Saudi royal family isnt Bin Ladin's family...so whats the problem? Is moore trying to imply they're evil too?

...and Otmorozok: suing=a shitload of political ramifications president bush cant afford with election day drawing near.

all in all...i found the movie quite amusing

[Kuzmich]

Well Bin Laden family connection to that compnay Bush and his father invested in was pointed out in the movie. And also why the hell after 9/11 then all flights were cancelled members of Bin Ladden family were allowed to live US. No one could fly, exept them.

[Iliaran]

Yes, the Bin Laden family, not Osama Bin Laden...big difference...its like saying that just because 1 apple in a basket's sour, they're all sour.

Think of what would have happened had the Bin Ladens stayed in the US. I've got a chinese friend who got beat up by a bunch of drunks who THOUGHT he was an arab in the states...makes you wonder what would happen if their identities were made public...

[Kuzmich]

Just give them protection, and atleast try to question them, they might know there Osama was located. Thats just common sense, if you have a murder and the murderer escaped you ask his relatives about his there abouts.

[Iliaran]

now you're quoting stuff out of the movie...this is sad...just plain sad...

Otmorozok, course its common procedure to question a criminal's relatives. Thing is, there was nothing 'common' about the terrorist attacks on the world trade center buildings. I highly doubt any protection would have been sufficient (short of a small army, that is) to protect members of the Bin Laden family from being ripped apart just because they're somehow related to Osama Bin Laden.

...oh and im sure the Bin Ladens all met up right before, and Osama was like "Yo ill be hiding in this cave in afghanistan! I didnt tell you this! if you need to find me just look for the cave with a sattelite dish and a limo parked right outside!"

[Kuzmich]

I don't get why you think that me quoting the movie is sad, i mean this thread is about the movie. But how does Iraq come into this? If Osama was in Afghanistan isn't the logical step in capturing him would be to go to Afghanistan?

[DwarfSpirits]

this is why i hate politics. Someone has to find something to bitch about....then another person supports him...then another disagrees, and it becomes a big fight. I hope im NEVER involved in politics ever.

[Kamikaze]

Originally posted by Otmorozok
I don't get why you think that me quoting the movie is sad, i mean this thread is about the movie. But how does Iraq come into this? If Osama was in Afghanistan isn't the logical step in capturing him would be to go to Afghanistan?

sorry to tell you buddy, but you're talking to people who would vote for satan if he just so happened to be their particular parties candidate.

people who vote for a someone just because they're a member of a certain party and not because of what their going to do for the country should be put to sleep..... with a hammer

[BlueCheeseKilla]

I think of Michael Moore as our rush limbaugh or bill o'reilly, and if they can have their fact distorting bastards, why can't we? and atleast Moore is actually funny, bill o'reilly and rush are just assholes