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Old 07-29-2004, 12:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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WWIII Scenario

Hypothetically, if there was a third world war and it occured recently with countries fighting such as the United States, Germany, Britain, Japan and other world powers. Who do you think would win based on real facts not just who you'd root for.
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Old 07-29-2004, 01:54 AM   #2 (permalink)
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completely depends on the alliances... and japan has no military, theyre not a world power. it would be mainly between russia the us and the european nations.


maybe china.. but i think theyd be fighting neighboring countries, no one too far away. if anything we'd be coming to them, they dont have a real way to transport all of their soldiers other than by land.. they dont stand a chance in the sky or in the sea
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Old 07-29-2004, 02:31 AM   #3 (permalink)
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maybe it wouldnt be about humans fighting humans but humans fighting aliens
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Old 07-29-2004, 04:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: WWIII Scenario

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Hypothetically, if there was a third world war and it occured recently with countries fighting such as the United States, Germany, Britain, Japan and other world powers. Who do you think would win based on real facts not just who you'd root for.
If Japan entered a war in their militaristic state today, they would fall like France fell in World War 2.

Like amrtin said, the outcome would be dependent on the Alliances.

I'll just make a somewhat random scenario:

If it was something like The United States, Britain, and Australia vs. France, Russia, China, and Germany then it'd be hard to say, but probably the first alliance because The United States probably has the strongest military out of the contenders, and has the advantage of being further away from many of the other countries (Russia's close, but the closest major city is probably Vladivostok.

Britain can hold its own against most of the European Nations individually, but it might not be able to hold its own against France and Germany.

Russia and China are probably the strongest out of the Second Alliance and both can hold their own against the United States well. China's military has been well kept and their Army has many, many troops. The Russian military isn't doing well, but if and when Russia's economystarts doing better their newer firearms and weaponry will replace their current equipment. China's military is basically the same as Russia's, but isn't in a slump. If Russia's military doesn't get revigorated then The United States would win easily and China wouldn't be much harder, because of help from Australia. France and Germany would fall easily against the combined efforts of The United States, Britain, and Australia.

If everyone starts using nuclear weapons then both countries win or lose depending on your view.

Well, there's one scenario.
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Old 07-29-2004, 04:17 AM   #5 (permalink)
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The 3rd world war will be started by India. Their Growing telecommunications info structure will allow them greater reach and ability to plan attacks. England shall feel the sting 1st as terrorist attacks rock their island. Followed by a direct hit on Japan's economy being crippled by several dummy corporations and a rather nasty computer virus. This will send the US into a depression over night. This in turn sends the whole bloody world into a panic. The armies of the middle east will see their chance run a muck. Shit keeps hitting the fan.. I won't bore you with details. Pretty soon it's Mad Max time.

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The 3rd world war will be started by India. Their Growing telecommunications info structure will allow them greater reach and ability to plan attacks. England shall feel the sting 1st as terrorist attacks rock their island. Followed by a direct hit on Japan's economy being crippled by several dummy corporations and a rather nasty computer virus. This will send the US into a depression over night. This in turn sends the whole bloody world into a panic. The armies of the middle east will see their chance run a muck. Shit keeps hitting the fan.. I won't bore you with details. Pretty soon it's Mad Max time.

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lol, well that beats the **** out of my scenario :rollie ... and so true too :\
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eh.. i dont think japan taking a dump would but us into an overnight depression... but i havent thought of anything yet, so i got no room to talk
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Old 07-29-2004, 09:16 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Well if you are asking a free for all, it would most likely America. We have the force to defend at home while still being able to attack outside. Plus we have a huge nuke stock pile if we were ever to need it. Then again if one person throws a nuke the rest will follow.

Idefy if you can give a certain circumstance it would be great. As a no holds bar free for all is not something very likely to happen.
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Old 07-29-2004, 09:37 AM   #9 (permalink)
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How about this...

The Ozone layer gets screwed even more, and large parts of several countries are heavily effected. These countries include but dont limit, America, parts of russia, parts of china, and france. each blames the other for the folly and eventually the ice caps melt. Upon this, the USA is reduced to 20 central states, UK disappears, Japan disappears, and as do other island countries. Now, 2 out of 3 major nations are wiped of the world and the 3rd's economy has been severly damaged. This causes global panic and fear. China takes over most of asia. Russia splits in 2, the west part of russia is called Russia and the eastern part of Russia is taken over by China and integrates. The middle east plays neutral to all conflict to come btw. so now what happens is that the supergiant China attacks India and ww3 begins. Its Europe against China. BTW, the USA does not involve itself but combines with Mexico and Canada to become the 3 major neutral nations of ww3.

China being far from the western world takes India fairly swiftly and advances on Russia where the main front is built. The navies of the world have been scattered to small ammounts here and there. Over the next 30 years, China conquers Russia and a large part of the rest of east europe. But due to major Nuclear attacks by the French and refugee Russians, China is forced to stop fighting and truces are made. The big winners of the war is the middle east who monopolized all oil used durring the war. The US canada and mexico start a war between eachother with minimal results due to launches of several nuclear weapons. Peace is finally acheived *somewhat* worldwide another 10 years later.

But soon enough ww4 starts.
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there will never be another world war. all wars from now on will be purely economic. countries realize that expending human resources in this mass media age would only serve to propell riots and anarchy.

the only way to force a country to adopt your way of life is to infiltrate its economic systems and change them into your own.

the united states is doing this as we speak. it is spreading propoganda heavily across the entire world, but especially in countries with large amounts of poverty and starvation. the populous of the countries beg for a democratic capitalistic government, and the US helps out by funding their own candidates.

if the country does not comply, then the US simply puts up trade embargos and starves them out of trading with the US alliances.

THE WORST THING EVER CREATED WAS THE WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION.

read up on this crap, it will change your lives.
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Old 07-29-2004, 06:03 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I Agree acutally...

If there were to be another world war no one would win, the world would end... It takes around 30 nukes to end the world, Between the U.S, Russian, France, and England we probablly have 100,000
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think about it, what would be so cataclysmic and devistating that it would wipe out and injure a few of the super giants? it the ice caps ever melted there would be a war and im positive China would be on its own side
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Old 07-29-2004, 09:48 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Some of the nukes that are in development can't be tested properly, and are estimated to have a radius of around 1/3 the US...So it's just a matter of whose nukes land first
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Old 07-30-2004, 03:32 AM   #14 (permalink)
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War isn;t about foot soldiers anymore, it's whoever drops their bombs faster, and whoever drops more of them. Why would there be a war anyway? If there was I would say that the States and friends would *win* even though half of the world would be destroyed. Another world war would cause a lot more damage than the last two because of technological advances.
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no, war isnt entirely about nukes anymore. Its who can hack into the others network first.
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Old 07-30-2004, 09:09 AM   #16 (permalink)
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nukes dont end wars. now were not the only people with nukes. we cant nuke someone without getting a nuke flown in our direction right after. so we wont nuke.

bombs? sure, they help. they soften up the enemy and take out factories. bt i dont care how many bombs you got, you need marines on the ground you want to take. you cant jsut bomb something until you own it. you bomb it then send in the marines to clean up.



and i cant see any realistic ww3 scenerio.
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perhaps with the hacking technology and espionage we have today, we wont have a nuclear war....or a ww3 for that matter....anytime in the future.
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Re: Re: WWIII Scenario

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If Japan entered a war in their militaristic state today, they would fall like France fell in World War 2.

Like amrtin said, the outcome would be dependent on the Alliances.

I'll just make a somewhat random scenario:

If it was something like The United States, Britain, and Australia vs. France, Russia, China, and Germany then it'd be hard to say, but probably the first alliance because The United States probably has the strongest military out of the contenders, and has the advantage of being further away from many of the other countries (Russia's close, but the closest major city is probably Vladivostok.

Britain can hold its own against most of the European Nations individually, but it might not be able to hold its own against France and Germany.

Russia and China are probably the strongest out of the Second Alliance and both can hold their own against the United States well. China's military has been well kept and their Army has many, many troops. The Russian military isn't doing well, but if and when Russia's economystarts doing better their newer firearms and weaponry will replace their current equipment. China's military is basically the same as Russia's, but isn't in a slump. If Russia's military doesn't get revigorated then The United States would win easily and China wouldn't be much harder, because of help from Australia. France and Germany would fall easily against the combined efforts of The United States, Britain, and Australia.

If everyone starts using nuclear weapons then both countries win or lose depending on your view.

Well, there's one scenario.
You wouldn't want Russia and China in the same side... Their numbers would be overwhelming. And with European technology, brought by France and Germany, the US and the rest would stand no chance, at all, specially with the US lack of human resources (not saying in numbers, but in expertise. If you want a proof, make a search for "Colateral Damage" that is not a movie with the Governator on it).
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Footsoliders amount out to crap when you have nukes that will destory a 600mile radius before a pin hits the ground from a 4 foot drop.

Also, Regardless of who wins the war, it's only like 6-7 nukes to be set off in the world and it will pretty much shatter the OZone layer...right?
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You wouldn't want Russia and China in the same side... Their numbers would be overwhelming. And with European technology, brought by France and Germany, the US and the rest would stand no chance, at all, specially with the US lack of human resources (not saying in numbers, but in expertise. If you want a proof, make a search for "Colateral Damage" that is not a movie with the Governator on it).
Russia's military is in disarray. It's been that way since the Soviet Union's economy collapsed during the late 1970's and 1980's all the way through till the USSR was no more. The new Russian tanks are good, but most can't be put into full production because of the lack of funds. China's military might have numbers, but their weapons are not as good as the British or the Americans, yet.

If my scenario happened in five years then the Russians and Chinese will have little or no chance of beating us. The French and Germans couldn't win without their support and efforst in Asia. If the war happened 10-20 years from now, then the outcome is unknown. It could swing both ways.

The American ground-based weapons and aircraft are among the best now. The F-22 is superior to many aircraft and might be the best. The American M1A2 Abrams Tank is one of the best. The British have the Challenger 2 tank which is also one of the best.

The problem with Russia is not in their designs, but in their production. The Russians have the T-80 "Black Eagle" Tank and T-90 which are on par with the American and British tanks, but cannot be produced in exorbitant numbers because of lack of funding. Give the Russians 10-20 years then their military would be the might it was during the Cold War.

The Chinese have good weapons, but their new stuff aren't being produced, or if they are being produced, only in very limited quantities.

The French and Germans have their share of good weapons, but I think their problem lies within lack of numbers. The British might not have large numbers either, but their military has been producing extremely well-trained troops in recent years. I can't say how effective the French and German militaries are since they haven't been involved in much conflict recently.

The outcome depends on who's attacking and when it occurs.

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Footsoliders amount out to crap when you have nukes that will destory a 600mile radius before a pin hits the ground from a 4 foot drop.
I don't think countries are willing to use nukes that willingly... errr... most countries *cough*
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