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06-28-2004, 12:48 AM
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| Evolution Why do teachers teach evolution in school as though it were fact when in reality, evolution is a theory?
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06-28-2004, 12:49 AM
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| Religion is just a theory as well. We really do not know how or why we were created if we have a purpose at all.
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06-28-2004, 12:53 AM
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| Hey, these are fun. Want me to dig up your old evolution thread?
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06-28-2004, 12:56 AM
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| no, but you never answered the question did you
so the cosmic egg burst and thus came forth the big bang...yet chaos doesnt create chaos no does it? cause and effect says that if one thing happens another does as well, how did the cosmic egg burst?
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06-28-2004, 01:42 AM
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| (I'm going to try as hard as I can to ignore posts like the above until I can tell you've taken either a physics or philosophy course.)
Unfortunately, the evolution thread where I smashed you with a dictionary must have been lost. The fist evolution debate I had with you was when I first registered, that was for sure lost in the placebo rollback. The one after that degenerated into name calling, was moved to the evidence locker, and now I can't find it. I have found one thread in the Archives that I'll just pull a quote out of. I'll skim the archives later to find some more old threads.
Anyway, skip the chit chat: You don't aknowlege evolution, but you do aknowlege animals moving to new environments and evolving. Quote: |
yes, evolution is real, but only to an extent, for exaple, some animals are moved to a new enviroment, and to adapt, they evolved. just as the frog from africal/south america will change into male if all the males are dead or nonexistent. hypothosist is theory. "99.9% of the same dna is in us as is monkeys" maybe they were made the same. but why are there still monkeys? and if i shock a bowl with an animal egg in it, will it instantly turn into somethin else? wat about that one monkey man chick? how do u find bones of somethin that has been dead for over 15 thou/mill years old? it wouldve disolved by then. sorry, evolution as the beggining of life is a bunch of bullshit. how is everything so perfect????
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06-28-2004, 04:58 AM
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| well... do you have a logical explanation better than evolution? i sure dont.
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06-28-2004, 05:08 AM
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| Re: Evolution Quote: Originally posted by thebastardsword Why do teachers teach evolution in school as though it were fact when in reality, evolution is a theory? | So what do you suggest they teach instead? |
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06-28-2004, 05:13 AM
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| Evolution is scientist's best theory at the moment. It has way more scientific evidence than a 2000 year old book of stories that involve some angry magic man and his son.
That is why evolution is taught. |
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06-28-2004, 05:30 AM
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Well, the reason that evolution is taught is beacause, 1. Its one of the only concept that is not considered a religion. 2. It deals with science and not as forged said with "magic" man and his son.
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06-28-2004, 08:29 AM
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| Evolution is so much more logical than a magical book. Is it that hard to understand?
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06-28-2004, 08:33 AM
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| Hitsua: It does make alot of sense, but I still think you have to consider what made things in the first place. Stuff didn't just "appear", somone had to have made it. Maybe not god, but somone did. Some people say that the earth was formed from dust and gases, alright but where did the gasses appear from? |
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06-28-2004, 08:41 AM
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| Honestly, this thread is about trying to explain the unexplainable. It just isn't possible to comprehend such a thing. I doubt that this question "where did this/that come from..." will ever be answered. Although we think everything had to be created by something..it doesn't mean that it had to be created by some sort of being (like a god). That's just getting way too deep into it anyway.
All I'm saying is...I find evolution to make much more sense than just believing what in what book sais. Do we believe everything we see on TV? No, of course not...and that's exactly how I look at the bible. Evolution on the otherhand, is based on science. Something much more believable, for me.
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06-28-2004, 01:00 PM
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| Humans minds are not vast enough to understand the fact of infinity. If we did we would be able to do much more then we do now. And you say God created the world, who created god?
And i think thebastardsword is embarassed cuz we dissed him so bad rofl.
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06-28-2004, 04:49 PM
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| so you all dont beleive in metaphysics and cause and effect or the chaos theory. You do believe spontaneous generation because how did the big bang happen? a cosmic egg suddenly shifted causing an explosion? Im not sure but thats chaos right there, and im positive chaos cant create order. If you **** a dead woman, she wont have a baby.
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06-28-2004, 05:56 PM
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| Bastard please take physics before you ramble like you know anything.... Quote: |
how did the big bang happen?
| I don't even want to turn this into a religous debate because those are tedious and boring, but since you brought this up... How did god happen? Since you are saying everything has to have a creator that means so does god. |
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06-28-2004, 06:08 PM
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| why does it matter how god happend? he's there and thats all that matters.
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06-28-2004, 06:10 PM
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| I'm using your logic. You are saying something has to have a creator to be, and I am asking who god's creator was. Quote: |
he's there and thats all that matters.
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06-28-2004, 06:31 PM
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| I didn't feel like reading anything more than the top post...BUT, high schools teach a lot of theory, what makes evolution so special? Because it goes against the church? So does the big bang theory but they still teach that.
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06-28-2004, 08:15 PM
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| They teach out of the science books, which most include Evolution and BBT, they put them in there so people have a choice to believe what they want... |
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06-28-2004, 09:47 PM
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why does it matter how god happend? he's there and thats all that matters.
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And BTW, TBS, STOP using your ****ing BUZZWORDS like you know what the **** you're saying.
Metaphysics: philosophy behind questions that science can't answer
"so you all dont beleive in metaphysics"
EQUALS: so you all don't believe in things that can't be answered by science
WITHOUT DOUBLE NEGATIVE: so you all believe in things that can be answered by science
Cause and effect: The Big Bang, the "effect", created time and "the beginning." "It would make no sense to ask what happened before the beginning or after the end, because such times would not be defined."
Chaos theory: EXTREAMLY relevant to the Big Bang (as an actual event) and evolution, among other things. "so you all dont beleive in..." implies you acknowledge chaos theory. And BTW, the next time you mention chaos theory and say 'I'm not sure, but...", be sure to clarify that 'I'm not sure' equates to 'I don't know what the **** I'm saying; I just know chaos=messy.'
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