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Old 06-28-2004, 12:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Catholicism NOT a part of christianity?

I have recentally heard that Catholics are trying to put Mary into a much higher position than she should be at.

how do they concider themselves christians when they do that?

same with their priests, and several other things they do in the church like confessions that arent even in the bible.

my question to you is do you think catholicisim is a christian religion and why.
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Old 06-28-2004, 12:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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than she should be at.
What the hell does that mean? She's one of your saints. Are they trying to make her the new Jesus or something?
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my question to you is do you think catholicisim is a christian religion and why.
I still don't understand how you can possibly ask questions like this as if there were some sort of opinion to them.
You know what? No. No I dont think Catholicism is a Christian religion. Why? Because I ****ing feel like it.
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Old 06-28-2004, 12:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Catholic was the first Christian religion to come about... So, how could it be considered not Christian. Christian as believing in Christ, so they still fall under Christianity.
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Old 06-28-2004, 12:54 AM   #4 (permalink)
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wow this is the most bullshit thread ever, please close.... Who the *** would say that catholicsm is not a sect of christianity. Omfg and your a forum elder????

Btw What religion are you?
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Catholic was the first Christian religion to come about... So, how could it be considered not Christian. Christian as believing in Christ, so they still fall under Christianity.
catholisism may have started a christian religion but it has vastly gone downhill. It should no longer be regarded as a christian religion because its practicies are mostly not in the bible.

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you have to confess your sins to a father or priest of the church

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you have to confess your sins to God himeslf.

Mac, first, mary is not my saint. secondly, the catholic church is trying to add mary into something much more important than the virgin that gave birth to jesus. I believe(but may be wrong) that they are trying to put her into the trinity


above 70percent: would you concider mormonism a sect of christianity?
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Old 06-28-2004, 01:10 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Who the **** cares if they don't have the same practices as you, and who the **** cares if Mary isn't your saint? You believe in the teachings of Christ don't you? Guess what, they do too! What the **** do you think "Christianity" means?
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Old 06-28-2004, 01:14 AM   #7 (permalink)
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you have to confess your sins to God himeslf.
Then God tells you what to do? Ye... No.

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believe(but may be wrong) that they are trying to put her into the trinity
You are moronic and that isn't even quite close to being true.
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:38 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Catholicism NOT a part of christianity?

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my question to you is do you think catholicisim is a christian religion and why.
...I'm going to go with yes because they believe Christ is the saviour...

This is a fun game. Next question: Is Hinduism a Christian religion? Any guesses? (Note: Hindus do NOT believe that Christ is the saviour).
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Thebastardsword your a freaking idiot. I swear man.... How the hell isnt cathlocism is not a sect of christianity?!?!?!? Do we believe in god? Yes. Do we follow the ten commandments? Yes. Do we read the bible? Yes. Do we listen to the bible? Yes. Then stfu plz. Omfg someone please close this goddamn stupid ass thread.

I myself, am catholic and I can say so much bout mormons but you know what? I choose not to, because I know although the way the follow the word of God is different from mine I still consider them somewhat christians.

But seriously, you have no case to say why they aren't/shouldn't be christians. In your first post you say confessions are not in the bible. But as you said you have to confess your sins to god, and we as catholics tell it to our father whom asks god for us.

You also stated that we do "other" things that are un-needed. What are those "other" things?
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read this:

http://www.contenderministries.org/catholicism.php
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i myself being jewish really have no say in this but what i read in my textbooks and global class in freshman year i do believe it is a part of it.
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Old 06-28-2004, 06:01 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Orhtodox and Catholcism started christianity, for that reason alone I say they are christian sects. Lets go for more proof though...

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Christianity: 1 : the religion derived from Jesus Christ , based on the Bible as sacred scripture, and professed by Eastern, Roman Catholic, and Protestant bodies


http://www.religioustolerance.org/christ.htm
We define "Christian" as including any group or individual who seriously, devoutly, prayerfully describes themselves as Christian. This is the same inclusive definition as public opinion pollsters use. Under this definition, Roman Catholics, Southern Baptists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, United Church members, even a few Unitarian Universalists, etc. are all considered to be Christian.

They both seem to define catholcism as christian and they are both reputable sources.
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this is why i like you forged, your not like mac where he says, your a fcking idiot man this is comeplety wrong cuz im always right and blah blah blah.

but okay ill take that for now cuz its kinda hard to explain what im thinking
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Old 06-28-2004, 06:29 PM   #14 (permalink)
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If I'm not mistaken, wasn't christianity started after catholocism? I thought that christians were the original protastants trying to get away from the catholic corruption.
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Catholicism is not the first christian sect to exist, but it is the longest one, as the others were all extinct.

I really, really fail to see any logic that would lead you to think that catholicism is not a christian reigion.

They love their saints. You know why? Because when those saints existed (and most of them was in the dark ages), they were signs of hope among the rest of the suffering there was. And all saints were christians, all of them converted some people. I do think they deserve some respect for the hard life they (usually) lived.

And where the hell have you heard that they are trying to make Mary part of the Trinity? That must be the most stupid thing I've ever heard ever. Show me where you read that (and the link you showed seems to go to another christian cult site...).

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If we don't count the fact that there is no god, I thought that priests were the representatives of god on Earth. Therefore, it's basicly the same thing, even though you do have an advantage to confessing to the priest. He can give you some advices, while when you talk to god, hoping for an answer, you can more likely find your name written with spaghetti in wall...

Of course Catholicism is a christian cult...

Anyway, you are taking your sept's directives as truth, which is obviously something you can not do when judging other religions. You should at least understand why they are like that...

And of course moronism is a christian cult.

P.S. - CB, there are teological theories that want you to believe that Hinduism is another form of Jewish.
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Erm...so do you know about what I posted about? Cause I learned in History class that much =/
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Didn't read your post, I started writing the response, then I had to go away for some time, then I finished it, sorry.

And, yes, it is true, what Americans call Christians (we don't name them like that, we name them Protestants) are people who split away from Catholicism.
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this is why i like you forged, your not like mac where he says, your a fcking idiot man this is comeplety wrong cuz im always right and blah blah blah.
I'm not always right: you're just always wrong. I swear, you have a huge problem with what should be common knowledge definitions. Seeing how Forged temporarily shut you up by giving you two dictionary references, I find it very tempting to buy you a dictionary as a gift. That way, the next time you have a question about anything, anything at all, you can check to see if you even know what you're saying before posting another topic like this.

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lol macman pwned you with a dictionary on a stick.

and btw bastard that is the most ****in biased ass website I have ever been too.... The front page alone has crap about Iraq which has nothing to do with religion, and something to do with the UN wanting complete control of the internet?? omg what the hell was that website? an online national enquirer?
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