Screwing the deserving - is it justified?

[Tempest Storm]

If someone screwed you over and you have the means to get back to those people(of course, there are limits, an eye for an eye, not a life for an eye or something)... Is it ok to screw them back? Is it justifyable and ok? or is it still wrong?

Following the Bible or such religious/wisdom based things will probably just tell you to turn the other cheek... but then, is it that easy? I for one think it is but for a certain limit...

[Steven22]

Personally I think it depends on the circumstance. If he stole 2 bucks from me and I found out, I really wouldn't bother trying to get back at him, for say another 2 bucks.
But if the situaton is something like, he was the reason why me and my girlfriend broke up and I have an open shot at making him break up with his girlfriend, I'd definatly go for it. Sometimes people deserve someone getting back at them for a given reason.
Now if you're asking me to discuss if it is morally or ethically right to take revenge upon someone, I'd say yes it is. I agree with the saying "eye for an eye." I don't fully go or believe in Karma. I believe if you're a ****ty person, or if you've taken ****ty actions against other people, you should pay for it now, in this life.

Nice to see you again Spike, err Tempest. Missed your posts

[jd-inflames]

In the bible, it says something similiar to, "Smite me in one cheek and I shall turn the other cheek" or something like that, it's 12:33 in the morning, these quotes aren't going to be accurate.

In the Necronomicon, it says something like this, "Smite me in one cheek and I shall break yours" or something along those lines.

I'm with the second one, and almost everyone around me knows this, so I don't get bothered very much. I'm not one to let someone walk over me, because I'm liable to walk right back and stomp on the way over.

[bamthedoc]

Wether you believe it or not, I find that people are tortured more by no action being taken when they know that you, or at least I, know. I've had boughts of revenge, and I've felt miserable afterwords. I'll give an example.

[name removed for protection of identity] was flinging braces rubber-bands at me while I was reading from Macbeth (I was King Macbeth). Annoyed, and at the end of the speach Macbeth was speaking, I stated,

"[name removed], would you stop that!"

There may have been more to it, but I surprised the whole class. It was Honors English IV, by the way. There were even some people in the class looking for that line in the speach >_< It took them a while, but it quickly became apparent that I was no longer reading from Macbeth. I berrated myself later because, honestly, I felt bad for it.

However...taking from that, I have done nothing multiple times. The person eventually goes through the whole guilt trip thing and comes to appologize. I always know who it is before hand, and said person knows I do. Torture via doing nothing is better than any revenge I could ever think of.

[IDefy]

As steven said it depends on the circumstances and the action. Payback doesn't necessarily change things. IE some teacher you hate fails you when you believe you should've passed so you pull some pranks or piss on her gradebook. You will still fail and only got maybe 5 minutes of fun out of it. I think the only time I would do something about it is if it involved friends or family.

[cxoli]

I'm too lazy to go to the effort of holding grudges or getting revenge. I'm sure that I've gotten people back for little things they did, but I really don't try all that hard at payback. It's not like I gain anything from it, anyway.

[Forged]

Revenge is sweet -_-

[RuneyPoo]

Okay, you see how it goes is... If someone screws you over, just don't let it go, you lose all the respect you had from the person. You stand up the the person, don't try to fight, talk it over with him(or her). But if it doesn't work, laugh in his face till he walks away, if he doesn't and tries to fight you... Go along with it...

You walk away from things, like when someone screws you over, you lose all your respect. Not only from that person you walked away from, but by people around you(such as your friends.)

Tis true, very true...

[Steven22]

Revenge is so trivial.
Why do we do it?

[Magikarp]

"Revenge is a dish best served cold."

Typically, I'm a person who tries to befriend everyone and prevent nasty situations.

Of course, when someone does go anal retentive on me, I usually try to alleviate the situation before exasperating it. If someone wronged me, I would merely try to amend the situation by using peaceful methods. If the person ignores this and decides to be stubborn, then the only solution left is aggression.

Nevertheless, a big problem with revenge is that it can lead into a tedious, drawn out conflict between you and whoever you took revenge upon. Therefore, whenever I do decide to strike back, I make sure that the person I'm attacking never forgets how badly I hurt them.

[jd-inflames]

I normally don't have to act in revenge just because no one is stupid enough to hurt me (ask xjman, I'm a big guy )

[CerebralChain]

Well, i have a short temper, and i believe in revenge.. But i wouldn't go psycho over something small, if it's a small issue i just harrass them verbally, until they say they're sorry.

[Above_70Percent]

and if they dont just either roll em or scratch there car.

[RyanXWing]

I for one saw my friends being shoved around by some people who thought they were the best thing since peanut butter(Which is still the best thing). I walk up to him and say "Hey moron what do you think you accoomplish by doing this?" He kicks a basketball into my frinds face without even listening to me so I level him. But the funny thing is I've never taken much revenge on someone that does something to me. Maybe a few words but otherwise I only take revenge on people when they do it to my friends.

So yes and no for me believing in revenge.

[shutupandgoaway]

Revenge is sweet. Revenge is a dish best served cold. Ergo, revenge is ice cream.

OT: I believe screwing the deserving is fun as hell, but ethically wrong. Revenge will continue the cycle, and make things worse for you and the other person in the end. Theres some extremely long and complex argument in The Republic aboot this...i shall find and post it, but until then, this is all.

It is also important to note that self defense and defense of others is different than revenge. Revenge is getting back at someone because of pride, defense is eliminating something that can potentially be a large danger.

[rapturedphoenix]

There is also something in the Bible about digging a hole for someone else to fall into and you end up falling into it yourself. I've lived a number of years and traveled many thousands of miles and I can say emphatically that a person reaps what they sow. Life is simple. A grain of corn produces a stalk of corn. An acorn produces an oak tree. Aggression produces death. Death comes in many forms. It isn't always the cessation of breath, heart, and brain activity. There is death of innocence, death of honor, death of integrity. Many of these intangible, relative to definition, types of death are difficult to determine the value of until they are gone. THEN, or sometimes a few years later, a person experiences the terrible thing called regret.

I deal with people in 2 steps. I approach every situation initially with grace and mercy. I assume others do not understand the reality or impact of their actions. I attempt to teach with understanding.

If grace and mercy are rejected, I then do one of two things. If the issue involves me alone or if whatever is wrong with the other person isn't likely to adversely affect anyone else, I walk away and never look back. If the issue is critical to someone else's life, innocence, sanity, well-being, etc.. I deal with the individual according to the law.

Christ came to give us grace. It is free to all that will receive it. For all the rest, they have a reservation with fire. They will be consumed and purged from the midst of those that have embraced kindness, meekness, respect, honesty, and love..

I desire peace. I ache for peace. I dream of peace. I am girded for war because not all think as I do. For every positive there is a negative. For every warm day, there is a cold one. Life is about extremes and balance. Happy is the man or woman that finds themselves centered. Chaos and storm is the atmosphere of the extremes. Serenity is balance.

[Jaden]

i just don't understand how anyone would benefit from continued revenge. People always will have different ideas about whether something is equal or not. Just take it. get over it. move on. Yeh you were wronged but everyone is at some point. The person who hurt you has probably been deeply hurt at some time anyway

SPIKE!! where have your buddhist beliefs gone??


Raptured Pheonix you are awesome. stick around!

[2.Waste.Hate]

I feel it is never justified to "screw" someone over. All you'll end up doing is making the situation worse. Take the high route and let it be... revenge leads to violence.