State Test a scam?

[Forged]

I have been reading a book for english class written by Ralph Nader called "Crashing the Party" He made a point with standarized test. Check this out, it is crazy.

"Created by consulting firms that saw the corprate management of public schools as a profitable objective, these test appear to be designed to show that public education was not working because so many students flunked. Experience in Texas with such manipulation lead to high drop out rates for highschool students under Gov. Bush. This testing tyranny forces the schools to teach the test, which themeselves are narrow-scoped and misleading yardsticks. There is plenty of evidence to show thayt behind these test is a commercial ideology planning to take over more and more of the $320 billion spent annually on schools."

[Thistle]

whoa thats a good point, I always knew there was something wrong about testing

[Induhvidual_1]

Misleading yardsticks? In california public schools, we take the "CAT6" (they come up with the lamest names). And damn it, it's so easy... that I dunno why they bother to test us.

[Forged]

Originally posted by Induhvidual_1
Misleading yardsticks? In california public schools, we take the "CAT6" (they come up with the lamest names). And damn it, it's so easy... that I dunno why they bother to test us.

I found the test to be realtivlly easy, but it did ask some teriblly worded questions, and the English essays are extremlly hard (where most people flunk) I had problems with this as well, they provide a generally bad prompt with no preperation and expect you to wright a3 page essay on it.

Also as Mr.Nader pointed out it causes teachers to teach the test not what they should be teaching us.

[N[U]TS]

Yea we have tests here in tx. it was called the TAAS test till this year......... This year the Sr's of 05 now have to take what is called the TAKS which you must pass to get your highschool diploma. sorta like a exit exam only over all you core subjects (sience , math, reading and writting.) so yea i will be the first to take this stupid test to pass and get a diploma.

[Kuzmich]

Forged i agree with you.
Nuts, nice avatar, you picked that one in response to my Russian speical ops one, havent you?

[Forged]

Originally posted by N[u]TS
Yea we have tests here in tx. it was called the TAAS test till this year......... This year the Sr's of 05 now have to take what is called the TAKS which you must pass to get your highschool diploma. sorta like a exit exam only over all you core subjects (sience , math, reading and writting.) so yea i will be the first to take this stupid test to pass and get a diploma.

Yeah I know. I was reefering to the taas/taks when I said that.

I live in San-Antonio.

[N[U]TS]

Originally posted by Otmorozok
Forged i agree with you.
Nuts, nice avatar, you picked that one in response to my Russian speical ops one, havent you?

well that might be 25% true. In another thread we were talking of special forces around the world so i decied to get a navy seal patch for my avatar. but i did notice yours as well


Forged you live pretty close to me. about 1.5 hr drive south to be exact. Corpus Christi

it sux to have to take this damn test just to get my diploma next year. I dont find the english or math taks hard at all its more of my science and history that im worried about.

[Forged]

On the practice we took last year I missed one on history and like 3-4 on science.

I don't rember math it wasn't low but it was not high either, I struggle with english simplly because I can not write.

[thebastardsword]

i take the cat6 cuz i live in california! its easy yes, but if students do well, teacher salary goes up as well as the property worth where the school has jurdistiction over. so the better you do on the test, it benefits other but not you. most students like you and me think its stupid because there is no reward for us.

now, i dunno about you induvidahl(sorry bout the sp) but in my area, we take an "exit" exam to get out of highshcool and an cat6 test. i believe that the "exit" exam should be incorperated into the cat6 in order to save taxpayers money and students time.