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04-09-2004, 02:08 AM
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| Purpose of Human Existence Cogito ergo sum
This is the basis, of the philosophy of human existence. It is greek and means I think therefore I am. Some philosophers follow this pretense as the basis of understanding human existence.
Pinch yourself
This is a simpler idea to prove human existence. The sensation of pain.
These two theories actually work together. To formulate, My mind is present and my body is present. Once we have proven that humans existence, in forms of thought and pain. We can now safely try and discuss the purpose of said existence.
Many think that having a purpose associated with human existence is putting to much weight on the ideal that humans serve a nobel purpose, or are going to have a nobel value. I however, do not think this is the case. I do not think there is a wonderful human purpose. I think that our purpose on this earth is to feel and to think.
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04-09-2004, 02:42 AM
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| "I think, therefore I am" is basically proof of existance, but doesn't necessarily give a reason why humans exist. I don't know if we have some sort of higher, "intended" purpose, but I think everyone has their own purpose in life. It could be just to feel and to think, to just live out your life, or it could be something other then that. It just depends, I think. |
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04-09-2004, 02:50 AM
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| My real belief as to why we exist is to start the whole "life existance" cycle again.
How I see it, the whole universe repeats itself ever so often (high billions of years) but each seperate planetary body repeats itself ever so often (millions/low billions of years) -- The way I see it, humans were made to be the last thing on earth, and we whipe it clean after we nuke it with ABombs, and it all starts over again.
It's kinda hard for some people to grip that concept, but It's something that I truely belive in |
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04-09-2004, 02:53 AM
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| well jeckels idea would make sense but i beleive in a god...i think that everyone was put on the earth for a certain reaso, some people were meant to be the president other were meant to smoke crack and get drunk.... gotta have variety
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04-09-2004, 04:21 AM
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| Quote: Originally posted by Gemini_Bloodian Cogito ergo sum
This is the basis, of the philosophy of human existence. It is greek and means I think therefore I am | I thought some French dude said that first.. Quote: Originally posted by cxoli "I think, therefore I am" is basically proof of existance, but doesn't necessarily give a reason why humans exist. | Exactly. Quote: Originally posted by sprucegoose some people were meant to be the president other were meant to smoke crack and get drunk | -_-;. Since god is against being drunk, I don't think he would create people specifically for that purpose.. unless your not talking about the Christian God.
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04-09-2004, 05:08 AM
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| The whole purpose of life is Nothing. We are here for no reason whatsoever.
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04-09-2004, 06:57 AM
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I thought some French dude said that first..
| Yup. René Descartes. Quote: |
i think that everyone was put on the earth for a certain reaso, some people were meant to be the president other were meant to smoke crack and get drunk....
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Since god is against being drunk, I don't think he would create people specifically for that purpose.. unless your not talking about the Christian God.
| Who knows why we're here or what God intended. Maybe there's a reason for our existance, and maybe there's not. Either way, I'd like to believe that there is.
However, I don't buy into the crap they teach you in Sunday School....Last week I was forced to sit and listen to this lady preach to me about how God has a purpose for you that's He's trying to tell you about, and if you feel like your life has no meaning then you're not listening hard enough. Yeah, whatever. Maybe God influences you and can give your life purpose, but I don't believe in this "predestination" thing. I think people should find their own purpose in life instead of magically expecting God to drop one on their heads. |
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04-09-2004, 07:01 AM
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| I have to agree. I believe we as human beings have no purpose to fulfill. There is no plan laid out for us and we aren't here to prove anything. We are just here. Maybe by accident or maybe cause the only thing that was intended for us, was being here in the first place. But I doubt there is a purpose for humans as a whole.
I still have doubts if we as individuals have single purposes. How is one person going to be "made" for president, while another is going to simply "be" a crack head.
I believe people can be better at things then other people, but it doesn't necesarily mean the other person can't achieve those same things. Its not chance either, it all has to do with how that person grew up, what he was exposed to, what he learned in his life, and how he does those things that make him better suited for a certain job. But as I said, it doesn't mean the other guy can't achieve it.
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04-09-2004, 08:25 AM
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| There is no purpous. We all appeared on Earth by luck. |
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04-10-2004, 04:22 AM
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| How many of these threads have there been???? Anyway... You exist not for a specific reason....but you may find one as you progress in your life. Also, korittke was closer to the thruth than many of you may think. We did appear by luck, if not a miracle... just think about it. Out of the billions of possible worlds in the galaxy, and trillions more in the universe, we came into being after billions of years of base elements coming together, forming chemical and later organic compounds on this world......at an exact time......under exact conditions. the chances of that happening many times is almost infetisimal. So yes...we are lucky......arent you glad???
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04-16-2004, 02:58 AM
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| or maybe we arent lucky
maybe there is something out there
systems as intricate as out circular system and respiritory system just dont happen on accident
there has to be something else out there
i dont believe that whole crap that there was a spinning ball of mass that exploded for no apparent reason and magically created living breathing things
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04-16-2004, 03:03 AM
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| Would you believe in a magical being that no one has seen, felt, heard, smelled, or tasted? This magical being just happened to start everything out of nothing? Not to mention, if everything has to have a beginning what the hell started him? I'll go with bing bang/ evolution.
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04-16-2004, 03:29 AM
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| i am way to confused to even start
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04-16-2004, 03:44 AM
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| Quote: Originally posted by amrtin77 Would you believe in a magical being that no one has seen, felt, heard, smelled, or tasted? This magical being just happened to start everything out of nothing? Not to mention, if everything has to have a beginning what the hell started him? I'll go with bing bang/ evolution. | That can work both ways though. Where did all the particles come from that created the big bang theory. All of those tiny little particles in the universe had to come from something, or could they just sort of "appeared"? |
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04-16-2004, 04:36 AM
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| your right. but y say "everything has to be created by something, so it was made by god."
the way i see it, lets not complicate things until we have reasonable proof god exists. if everything has to be created you have a never ending line of things creating more powerful things. as far as we know, it did just come out of nowhere. if god can why cant the particles? gotta start somewhere... god is just adding an extra step in my eyes.
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04-16-2004, 09:24 AM
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| "I just want to be"
That about sums up what I think i'm here for. No special purpose givin to me by some god, no trail laid out for me to follow. I'm here to be here, I'm here to make whatever i want outa life be it good or bad.
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04-16-2004, 11:49 AM
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| does anyone here know what skepticism is? It is something René Descartes made up about how a "malacious demon" creates states of minda and inserts things into our minds...
it was out of that philosophy that they made the matrix about. I don't really believe in it but there is always the possiblity. I myself do not believe in purpose or reason. I think we as human search for reason and purpose... such as love, religion, kids. I think evolution is real and when we die we have lost our chance to have fun.
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04-16-2004, 05:19 PM
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| If life has no purpose why dont we all have a good time before we die? because life has no purpose and there is no god.
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04-16-2004, 10:10 PM
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| how do you explain life then?
Hm?
just one day something exploded and living stuff just popped out
just outta nowhere there just crawled a pile of goo from under a rock
if you believe that you need to get your story straight
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04-16-2004, 10:18 PM
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| How would you explain it? a magical being created us out of thin air?
Not to mention this magical being has never been encountered, and when something bad happens the answer is conveniently "god works in mysterious ways."
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